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    I like to post a list every now and again, just to feel involved in some sort of way. I change my top 10 constantly, however, so take this with a brick of salt.

    10. Lennox Lewis - He was the last to officially clean up the division, though his wins against all-time greats Holyfield, and Tyson are skewed, given their ages. He was a sound technical fighter, he had good power, and given his size, would have been formidable in any era. He was one of the few who actually got better with age. He fought some of his best fights in his 30's, which is extremely rare, especially for a heavyweight. This is a temporary placeholder at #10, however, as this spot changes more frequently for me than any other on the list.

    9. Jack Dempsey - One of the original true terrors. He was smaller than a lot of guys, but he tore them down like it was his job. Well...I guess it technically was. He was dominant in his era, and although he encountered one piece of kryptonite during the course of his career (Tunney), that can't erase one of the true greats from history's list.

    8. Charles "Sonny" Liston - Perhaps the most feared fighter of the entire century, Liston tore his way to the top, avenging his only decision loss (Marshall), and destroying then heavyweight champion Floyd Patterson twice, in a total of two rounds. I don't rate him any higher than 8 for now, however, as he only successfully defended his title once, and then failed to splash back onto the scene. He was a fierce, freak of nature, with an incredible reach, and a jackhammer jab.

    7. Mike Tyson - A perpetual buzzsaw at his best, a sad, sub-human at his worst, "Iron" Mike was perhaps the single most exciting fighter in heavyweight history. He tore through the division on his way to the crown, decimating all, and leaving little to question when he swept the championship belts onto his shoulders as a mere boy amongst men. Truly, the last heavyweight to hold the undisputed crown for any significant length of time. Were it not for his odd personna and tragic private life, he could have been discussed much higher on many lists. He had rare physical talents, perhaps not seen in any other fighter; he possessed speed, power, and elusiveness in dangerous supply. Given how he turned out, however, this is the absolute highest I can rate him.

    6. Joe Frazier - The hardest working individual. The man didn't lift weights, he was small for a heavyweight, he was a converted lefty, he was awkward, and at times slow. "Smokin" Joe Frazier was a warrior, a true battler who brought 100% from the opening introductions to the final bell. Perhaps my favorite fighter of all-time, he simply got there by out-hustling his opponents. A man with a heart as big as the moon, he could have been the greatest, were he not overshadowed by two others from the same era.

    5. George Foreman - I place the grillmaster in the middle of my list, because his accomplishments weren't amazing, having only successfully defended the title for two professional bouts, and containing the largest list of tomato cans in grocery store history. Even so, the man was an absolute house. He even put my #6 boxer to shame, by knocking him to the canvas half-a-dozen times in two rounds. When it seemed as though he was merely a power slugger who's career never truly got there, he comes back, after more than nine years away, and slugs his way to the top to win the belt 20 years after losing it! He showed heart, and tactical boxing skill; two qualities sorely lacking from his dominant prime.

    4. Larry Holmes - The man won 48 consecutive fights, and defended the title for 7 years before finally succumbing to age and wear. Even so, he went on to have a fairly successful extended career lasting well into his 50's. Perhaps the best pure boxer, with the most complete game on the list, the "Easton Assassin" is often underrated and dismissed as a shadow to the fighters of the 60's and 70's. I know one thing's for sure: he would perhaps be the single most difficult opponent for anyone at any point in history. He could come back from devastating power (see: Shavers 1 & 2), turn a fight around in the midst of losing (see: Witherspoon), and deliver a combination of speed, power, courage, and stamina that many of his predecessors couldn't boast of containing in such quan****** together.

    3. Rocky Marciano - The only undefeated heavyweight champion, to retire undefeated. 49-0. Nothing else needs to be said. It doesn't matter who he faced, or how sloppy he was getting there, the man simply won. It's all he knew how to do. He couldn't be put away, and he had stamina to punch through walls for 20+ rounds. I rate him higher than do many other boxing historians, but he has accomplished something that may---no, probably will never happen again.

    2. Muhammad Ali - In a head-to-head competition, Ali beats nearly everyone on this list without too much trouble. Given the awkward style matchup, I'd say that he easily handles #1 & #3. This isn't a vs. list, however; it's the greatest champions. As a champion, he was superb. It's a shame that most of his time as champ was spent when his gifts of speed, fluidity, and elusiveness were gone. There is no doubt that Ali has had the biggest impact on the sport, and on particular groups of cultural society in America. "The Greatest" was taken from the sport during his prime years. Some would say it was a judgment for speaking out against the One True God, while others would claim that the government was out to get him. Whatever the case, he still overcame the loss of his swift feet to outsmart, and outwill his way back to the top, 10 years after accomplishing it the first time. He has left us with some of the best, and perhaps the most memorable moments in sports history.

    1. Joe Louis - He defended the title 25 times over the course of a 12-year stretch. He avenged his first loss in the most impressive fashion seen before or since. He was sound in all aspects of the game. To have a "prime" last as long as he did is unfathomable by today's standards. He was simply the best, for the longest period of time, and didn't truly suffer a loss except while he was green (which he avenged in brutal fashion), and again, while he was well beyond his best years against Ezzard Charles and Rocky Marciano. Those names are hardly the tags of a couple of bums or journeymen. Joe Louis even took 4 years off to serve his country, and he still returned in very impressive fashion. The man was the most complete fighter in heavyweight history. The "Brown Bomber" loved the sport of boxing, and aided in bringing it to the forefront of all sports. Even though he would match up poorly to my #2, his accomplishments inside and outside of the ring are more than enough to earn him the #1 spot, on my list of the greatest heavyweights of all-time.

    Well, there you have it. A little dramatic, a little wishy-washy, but it's my current list. Stay tuned when I'll probably change it in three days time.
    Last edited by Brassangel; 08-18-2007, 01:30 AM.

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      #1 tyson, when he was dedicated he could take out anybody. ANYBODY

      there is a reason why people nut hug tyson, just watch the quality of his fights compared to "Joe Louis" (who just knocked out white farmers who's workout routine consisted of drinking beer)

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        Originally posted by them_apples View Post
        #1 tyson, when he was dedicated he could take out anybody. ANYBODY

        there is a reason why people nut hug tyson, just watch the quality of his fights compared to "Joe Louis" (who just knocked out white farmers who's workout routine consisted of drinking beer)
        There are many fighters who, when dedicated can take out anybody. Tyson isn't special in that respect.

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          Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
          There are many fighters who, when dedicated can take out anybody. Tyson isn't special in that respect.
          oh yea I completely agree, but he looked the coolest doing it!

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            He Brought Knockouts to a decade were Unanimous Decission was Exciting! he was IMO the most exciting fighter ever and would of had the same inpact in any era!!

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              1. James J. Jeffries. Untouchable when the game was most brutal.
              2. Joe Louis. Longest reign.
              3. Muhammad Ali. Most charismatic and multiple championships.
              4. Rocky Marciano. Undefeated.
              5. Jack Dempsey. His ferocity was no act.
              6. Jack Johnson. Only man to beat Jeffries, although Jeffries was way old.
              7. John L. Sullivan. Started it all.
              8. Larry Holmes. Great record and long reign, but average competition.
              9. George Foreman. All time puncher. Regained title in his 40s.
              10. Evander Holyfield. Big heart. All time chin. Multiple championships.

              Hon. Mention: Lennox Lewis (still waiting to see if he can eclipse Holyfield)
              Joe Frazier
              Ezzard Charles

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                great thread and one that is very subjective depending on your own personal taste, your age and the amount of action you have actually seen of each fighter... for what its worth my top 10 would be:

                1) Joe Louis: a beast of a man with unbelievable physical attributes for his time. Great power and ring generalship.

                2) Ali: Not really much to say about this guy that hasn't already been said. amazing handspeed, great combinations, chin, the list goes on

                3) lennox lewis: On his day i would pick lennox to beat any heavy in any era. a wonderful jab, great right hand and uppercut. his chin is severely under-rated, the 2 shots from mcCall and Rahman would of laid out the majority of heavies. in 10/20 years people will appreciate how great lennox was

                4) Larry Holmes: probably the best jab of all time and a great, dominant heavyweight champion

                5) Sonny Liston: Probably the most intimidating man i have ever seen!! destructive force and very under-rated my many i feel

                6) Frazier: Unbelievable heart and courage, he possessed great skills and his hooks were very dangerous. involved in one of the greatest fights of all time with Ali.

                7) George Foreman: ferocious, mean, devastating power and one of the most intimidating men to ever step into a ring. he would give any heavyweight of any era a great fight, and if i could produce a dream match-up it would be between him and lennox lewis.

                8) Rocky Marciano: undefeated as a professional and possessed great power for his time. Some might wonder why he is so low on my list. I just feel due to his size he would not be able to compete with the bigger guys. But undoubted heart and skill and deserves a top 10 place.

                9) Evander Holyfield: he's gave us so many great fights which will live in the memory. aside from the steroid scandal, the way he managed to compete at heavyweight with his lack of size was incredible. He has beena fearless warrior and a great heavyweight champion

                10) jack Johnson: I have not seen much of Johnson but from what i have seen i rate him highly. I intend to download some more of his fights and after i might rank him higher

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                  Muhammad Ali
                  Joe Louis
                  Rocky Marciano
                  James J. Jeffries
                  Jack Dempsey
                  Jack Johnson
                  George Foreman
                  Joe Frazier
                  Larry Holmes
                  Lennox Lewis
                  Last edited by CRESCENDOPOWER; 11-10-2007, 03:57 AM.

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                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena View Post
                    1. James J. Jeffries. Untouchable when the game was most brutal.
                    2. Joe Louis. Longest reign.
                    3. Muhammad Ali. Most charismatic and multiple championships.
                    4. Rocky Marciano. Undefeated.
                    5. Jack Dempsey. His ferocity was no act.
                    6. Jack Johnson. Only man to beat Jeffries, although Jeffries was way old.
                    7. John L. Sullivan. Started it all.
                    8. Larry Holmes. Great record and long reign, but average competition.
                    9. George Foreman. All time puncher. Regained title in his 40s.
                    10. Evander Holyfield. Big heart. All time chin. Multiple championships.

                    Hon. Mention: Lennox Lewis (still waiting to see if he can eclipse Holyfield)
                    Joe Frazier
                    Ezzard Charles
                    I don't really give Johnson much credit for beating Jeffries who had 6 years on his alfalfa farm, balooning to over 300 pounds, and gets dragged back with out so much as a tune-up fight and still goes 14 rounds before his corner throws in the towel.

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                      Just remeber, it's all opinion.

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