Prime Marciano vs Heavyweight Gauntlet 8 ft Ring

[Mr Mitts]

I took the title idea from Malevolentbite I believe.

Is there anyone at all who would whip Rocky in an 8 ft ring? I have made a poll with some candidates. Mark who would lose to the Rock in this tiny ring.

[MalevolentBite]

Whoa I kinda shocked by a few of these votes Lennox, Vitali, Prime Louis and Ali beats him. Specially 15 rounds.

[Anomalocaris]

Whoa I kinda shocked by a few of these votes Lennox, Vitali, Prime Louis and Ali beats him. Specially 15 rounds.

Quite frankly they are ridiculous.

[MalevolentBite]

Quite frankly they are ridiculous.

I can understand he's a fan favorite so he gets nob must of the time when he is matched up against other boxers.

It is what it is. Lol.

[Mr Mitts]

Whoa I kinda shocked by a few of these votes Lennox, Vitali, Prime Louis and Ali beats him. Specially 15 rounds.

They are not as bound by their biases as you are. Marciano beats almost anyone in an 8 ft ring. They realize that. They realize that those whose game depends on distancing are at a great disadvantage from the opening bell.

A lot of people recognize that your idols Klit were not ATGs at all. Those two twats would be lucky to beat Rocky in any sized ring. Sorry that doesn't make any sense to you at all.

[Anomalocaris]

They are not as bound by their biases as you are. Marciano beats almost anyone in an 8 ft ring. They realize that. They realize that those whose game depends on distancing are at a great disadvantage from the opening bell.

A lot of people recognize that your idols Klit were not ATGs at all. Those two twats would be lucky to beat Rocky in any sized ring. Sorry that doesn't make any sense to you at all.

Liston and Foreman would have reduced him to a pile of quivering pulverised jelly within 3 rounds.

NO-ONE who just swarms into those two survives.

Just my opinion.

I respect almost everyone's but the obvious trolls.

[them_apples]

in an 8 ft ring I would not bet against Marciano.

From the get go the tallest guys are off the list. They won't be able to hit him. he'll be on them in seconds, weight down by the floor, all their weight up top.

Then factor in he never tires, and is particularly hard to hurt let alone knockout.

Foreman has a chance because of his counter strength, grappling and ability to take a shot. He too however is wide open, probably won't respect Marciano until it's too late and he himself tires badly.

Ali will cut him up, but he can't hold him off and in an 8 ft ring there's absolutely no chance he will. He won't beat him inside so that's that.

Louis early on drills Marciano, cuts him, maybe drops him - then Louis gets knocked out cold in an exchange in the later rounds, his offense would be his down fall.

[Willie Pep 229]

What's being done here?

Removes footwork from the equation.
Limits effective counter punching.
Limits ring generalship.
Makes a distant fight unlikely.

Emphasizes power.
Emphasizes conditioning.
Emphasizes a good chin.

Pick out the fighters who are stronger than Marciano; with a good chin. They should beat him.

Fighters with weak chins he'll beat; boxers who can't physically push him backward, he'll beat.

Seems a strange thing to evaluate.

Has anything like this ever been tried?

I mean, at one time they had battle royals and worst battle royals with blindfolded fighters.

So it doesn't seem impossible to me that someone, somewhere did try this 8' ring thing.

EDIT

Would I buy a ticket or would this somehow seem preverse to me?

Boxing is supposed to be a martial art and that includes all its aspects at once: power, technique, footwork, defense, positioning, conditioning; heart, chin, ring generalship.

EDIT

I've decided. I wouldn't like to watch this. Too limiting. Takes away too many of the game's aspects.

[Mr Mitts]

What's being done here?

Removes footwork from the equation.
Limits effective counter punching.
Limits ring generalship.
Makes a distant fight unlikely.

Emphasizes power.
Emphasizes conditioning.
Emphasizes a good chin.

Pick out the fighters who are stronger than Marciano; with a good chin. They should beat him.

Fighters with weak chins he'll beat; boxers who can't physically push him backward, he'll beat.

Seems a strange thing to evaluate.

Has anything like this ever been tried?

I mean, at one time they had battle royals and worst battle royals with blindfolded fighters.

So it doesn't seem impossible to me that someone, somewhere did try this 8' ring thing.

EDIT

Would I buy a ticket or would this somehow seem preverse to me?

Boxing is supposed to be a martial art and that includes all its aspects at once: power, technique, footwork, defense, positioning, conditioning; heart, chin, ring generalship.

EDIT

I've decided. I wouldn't like to watch this. Too limiting. Takes away too many of the game's aspects.

Nah. If there is a boxing heaven I'll try to hold a seat for you. Sure I took those aspects out--that was the whole point--to isolate Rock's talents and see if his vaunted power, chin and punch are actually hard on the big boys' stamina. Does he have enough single punch to even disturb a Liston or Foreman? Things like that we would see for ourselves are why you would be there.

One thing I feel pretty sure of is they will have to finish their work quickly in that ring or things are going to get a lot more brutal for them. The longer it goes the less well it will go for them, but only if the Rock can survive a furious opening attack. That is one of the big questions--can he survive long enough to do his work?

[them_apples]

Nah. If there is a boxing heaven I'll try to hold a seat for you. Sure I took those aspects out--that was the whole point--to isolate Rock's talents and see if his vaunted power, chin and punch are actually hard on the big boys' stamina. Does he have enough single punch to even disturb a Liston or Foreman? Things like that we would see for ourselves are why you would be there.

One thing I feel pretty sure of is they will have to finish their work quickly in that ring or things are going to get a lot more brutal for them. The longer it goes the less well it will go for them, but only if the Rock can survive a furious opening attack. That is one of the big questions--can he survive long enough to do his work?

Of course he does. Even if there’s a range in how hard Marciano might hit or how strong he might be, there’s no doubt he had more than enough power to hurt anyone on this list.




The real question with Marciano isn’t about his power—it’s about how he would handle a massive shot from someone like Foreman. Not every heavyweight gets tested against elite-level power. Marciano faced strong punchers, but he never encountered a true wrecking-ball puncher like Foreman. That said, the way he handled the power he did face was remarkable—it never seemed to faze him. Given his incredible recuperative abilities, there’s a strong chance he could withstand Foreman’s best shots. We’ve seen Frazier, who wasn’t even in top shape, get up six times against Foreman. Marciano was physically stronger and had better endurance, so it’s not unrealistic to think he could do the same or better.




The thing that sets Marciano apart is that he maxes out on the most overlooked but most important quality in sports: effort. He’s the type of fighter who might look awkward or struggle in the early rounds, but he keeps adapting, keeps pressing forward, and doesn’t stop until he gets the result he wants. His conditioning is second to none, meaning he’s always prepared for a grueling war. And unlike Joe Frazier or Mike Tyson, who had very specific styles, Marciano was highly adaptable. His aggressive, relentless approach forced his opponents to fight at a pace they couldn’t sustain for 15 rounds. Once fatigue set in, Marciano would start landing his best punches, and that’s when the fight would usually end.




We can only judge him by the tests he did face—and he passed all of them. Walcott was a proven puncher. We may not know the exact level of his power, but he knocked Ezzard Charles out cold and dropped Joe Louis multiple times. He regularly hurt other top fighters. Yet Marciano shook off Walcott’s best punches like they were nothing.




If we’re going to judge him on the same spectrum as the other greats:

• Ali was dropped by Cooper and Frazier and badly hurt by Cooper.

• Foreman was dropped by Lyle and Ali and seriously hurt by both.

• Lennox Lewis was knocked out by McCall and Rahman.

• Liston was stopped by Ali.

• Joe Louis was knocked out by Schmeling and Marciano.




There are always variables to consider with these stats, but at the end of the day, what matters is what actually happened in the ring.




Some people struggle to believe what Marciano accomplished was possible, but if you study how he trained and prepared, the answer is obvious. If you isolate yourself for years, dedicate yourself to full-time training, and focus on maximum effort every single day, you become a machine. That’s exactly what Marciano did—and that’s why he was able to do what so many thought was impossible.
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