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    #11
    Originally posted by Hawk Tuah! View Post
    I would rate him 3rd (perhaps 4th) all time CRUISER champ. I do this because is actually what he was, a cruiserweight. I rate Usyk, Holyfield and Johnny Nelson higher.
    If I were to rate Marciano as a ATG heavy, it would have to be rated somewhere waaaaaaay down the list.

    Discuss freely
    - Y U no say what grade they kick U out of?

    Rocky rated as the only undefeated heavy champ unless Usyk suddenly retires after manhandling the current heavy division which is actually Super Heavy in the Olympics.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Hawk Tuah! View Post
      I would rate him 3rd (perhaps 4th) all time CRUISER champ. I do this because is actually what he was, a cruiserweight. I rate Usyk, Holyfield and Johnny Nelson higher.
      If I were to rate Marciano as a ATG heavy, it would have to be rated somewhere waaaaaaay down the list.

      Discuss freely
      Just good friends .
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        #13
        Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

        Just good friends .
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        Cruiser? Try light heavyweight! He came in at 179 at his very lightest. He’s also capable of butchering Charles x2, Walcott x2 and Moore nearly back to back in operation while weighing the same as them. This is by far hands down the best light heavyweight to have ever reigned. Nobody comes close to that kinda of dominance over those fighters while weighing the same as them.

        if you looked at the resume of any light heavyweight who ever exsisted nobody comes close. Not even Greb (lhw, not p4p).
        Last edited by them_apples; 12-28-2024, 08:19 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by them_apples View Post

          Cruiser? Try light heavyweight! He came in at 179 at his very lightest. HeâÃÂÃÂs also capable of butchering Charles x2, Walcott x2 and Moore nearly back to back in operation while weighing the same as them. This is by far hands down the best light heavyweight to have ever reigned. Nobody comes close to that kinda of dominance over those fighters while weighing the same as them.

          if you looked at the resume of any light heavyweight who ever exsisted nobody comes close. Not even Greb (lhw, not p4p).
          So, you think 179 is light heavy?

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            #15
            Originally posted by Hawk Tuah! View Post

            So, you think 179 is light heavy?
            yeah with a second day weigh in it easily is. Marciano was even smaller than the light heavies he beat. he still get's no credit! and they were the best to ever do it lol

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              #16
              Originally posted by them_apples View Post

              yeah with a second day weigh in it easily is. Marciano was even smaller than the light heavies he beat. he still get's no credit! and they were the best to ever do it lol
              WRONG!

              Marciano was the heavier man against
              Bilazarian
              Edwards
              Ross
              Jefferson
              Evans
              Haft
              Lowry1
              Muscato
              Henri
              Lowry 2
              Reynolds
              Mathews
              Lastarza1
              Charles 1
              Moore

              Fifteen fights, 3 of which were title defences.
              Last edited by Bronson66; 12-29-2024, 06:13 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                WRONG!

                Marciano was the heavier man against
                Bilazarian
                Edwards
                Ross
                Jefferson
                Evans
                Haft
                Lowry1
                Muscato
                Henri
                Lowry 2
                Reynolds
                Mathews
                Lastarza1
                Charles 1
                Moore

                Fifteen fights, 3 of which were title defences.
                Lastarza1 - Lastarza outweighed Rocky, just say'n.

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                  #18
                  I have a s tupid opinion I would like to add to the 'bigger' debate.

                  There is one demetional big and there is 3D big.

                  Fury 6' 9" 273 for Wilder II

                  Foreman 6' 3" 250 for Moorer

                  To me Foreman is the bigger 3D man.

                  If these two guys were to go silverback gorilla at eachother, slam chest to chest, who would drive whom backward?

                  It isn't just in the numbers, some guys are just 'thicker' than guys who are actually bigger then them statistically.

                  Or maybe it just feels that to me.
                  Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 01-04-2025, 06:01 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
                    I have a s tupid opinion I would like to add to the 'bigger' debate.

                    There is one demetional big and there is 3D big.

                    Fury 6' 9" 273 for Wilder II

                    Foreman 6' 3" 250 for Moorer

                    To me Foreman is the bigger 3D man.

                    If these two guys were to go silverback gorilla at eachother, slam chest to chest, who would drive whom backward?

                    It isn't just in the numbers, some guys are just 'thicker' than guys who are actually bigger then them statistically.

                    Or maybe it just feels that to me.
                    Yes and this is a persons build and genetics

                    weight makes up the frame

                    but the weight is made up of many different things. In Foremans case he was born with muscle and bone. And when you are born with it everything is big. Your ligaments / joints / skull

                    when you put it on its like Michelin man - you just made a part of you big

                    Fury is 50 percent fat

                    and his build is slim - he’s knock kneed and has naturally low muscle mass

                    Foreman never in any world would get dropped by cunningham and I would strongly bet Wilders shot would bounce off Foremans dome like a tennis ball
                    Willie Pep 229 Willie Pep 229 likes this.

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