Vinny Paz gets into the IBHOF

[IronDanHamza]

As you wrote earlier, "its the Hall of Fame", but its not the hall of famous; meaning they want to bring fame to those deserving not just reward fighters for being famous and drawing lots of attention.

Coincidentally, there was an article on here today about the same thing, it is the author quoted the selection criteria, which states, "Voting shall be based upon a boxer’s achievements in the ring as a professional boxer" to me, how many people saw the fight is more of an outside the ring measurement.

Yes, to the point I mentioned.

That's the criteria. But that criteria has become lost now. Still doesn't make it right.

[DeeMoney]

I think the problem with comparing the boxing HOF to team league sport HOFs is the lack of standardization in boxing as opposed to professional leagues. For example, in boxing you have these boogey man fighters who get avoided and can't control their opportunities. Additionally, you get big name fighters who can cherry pick fights and build themselves up to being better than they actually were. That couldn't happen in baseball, sure you could intentionally walk a star hitter, but even that builds to his statistical resume.
That being written, in an organized league standardization protect from this. The Dodgers couldn't try to avoid playing against Hank Aaron until he was past his prime, he got a standardized schedule to play in which allowed us to better evaluate him against others.

[JAB5239]

I think the problem with comparing the boxing HOF to team league sport HOFs is the lack of standardization in boxing as opposed to professional leagues. For example, in boxing you have these boogey man fighters who get avoided and can't control their opportunities. Additionally, you get big name fighters who can cherry pick fights and build themselves up to being better than they actually were. That couldn't happen in baseball, sure you could intentionally walk a star hitter, but even that builds to his statistical resume.
That being written, in an organized league standardization protect from this. The Dodgers couldn't try to avoid playing against Hank Aaron until he was past his prime, he got a standardized schedule to play in which allowed us to better evaluate him against others.

Great post!

[QueensburyRules]

- - The IBHOF not so long ago inaugurated a female "boxer" who never had a single trainer nor a single round in a single fight in spite of her claims of being undefeated.

My guess is she had the necessary "lobby skills" needed to over come her otherwise complete absence in boxing.

[Willow The Wisp]

I think the problem with comparing the boxing HOF to team league sport HOFs is the lack of standardization in boxing as opposed to professional leagues. For example, in boxing you have these boogey man fighters who get avoided and can't control their opportunities. Additionally, you get big name fighters who can cherry pick fights and build themselves up to being better than they actually were. That couldn't happen in baseball, sure you could intentionally walk a star hitter, but even that builds to his statistical resume.
That being written, in an organized league standardization protect from this. The Dodgers couldn't try to avoid playing against Hank Aaron until he was past his prime, he got a standardized schedule to play in which allowed us to better evaluate him against others.

....and Pete Rose weeps.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - The IBHOF not so long ago inaugurated a female "boxer" who never had a single trainer nor a single round in a single fight in spite of her claims of being undefeated.

My guess is she had the necessary "lobby skills" needed to over come her otherwise complete absence in boxing.

Oy vey. In the 40s, they made them wear an Army helmet over their breasts.

Anyway, Jackie Tonawanda was inducted as a "Trailblazer" for woman's boxing; and she did manage to knock out ranked male Kickboxer Larry Rodiana at Aaron Bank's Oriental World of Self Defense show, held in Madison Square Garden; in one of the many pre-MMA Boxing vs. Martial Arts matches held during the 1970s. (The Boxers almost always won with ease; but this one had the added aspect of featuring a male vs. A female- very embarrassing for the Martial Arts).

[Mr Mitts]

How many boxers does the HOF enshrine anyway? Hundreds? Thousands? Alphabetical order or by era?

[QueensburyRules]

....and Pete Rose weeps.

- - Petey is an 83 yr old multimil$$$ raking it in on personal appearances for fans liking betting on baseball far beyond his considerable playing career.

No need to weep for the unabashedly shameless$$$.

[JAB5239]

- - Petey is an 83 yr old multimil$$$ raking it in on personal appearances for fans liking betting on baseball far beyond his considerable playing career.

No need to weep for the unabashedly shameless$$$.

Rose died in September. And no matter his transgressions after his days as a player, it doesnt change what he accomplished on the field. That's like saying Abe Attell shouldn't be recognized for his ring accomplishments because of what he did later in life. So many athletes have done terrible things after their careers ended, but it doesn't change what they actively did in their sport during their time.

[QueensburyRules]

Rose died in September. And no matter his transgressions after his days as a player, it doesnt change what he accomplished on the field. That's like saying Abe Attell shouldn't be recognized for his ring accomplishments because of what he did later in life. So many athletes have done terrible things after their careers ended, but it doesn't change what they actively did in their sport during their time.

- - Rose main value was as an everyday utility player whom the other pros considered a Hot Dog. Great, he hung around long enough to create the MLB hits record held by Ty Cobb who was an infinitely more talented baseball player statistically...yer welcome...