Top 5 Middleweights.....Hopkins?

[Willow The Wisp]

I’m with Jab on this one.

Hagler was a great fighter but speaking purely resume it pales in comparison to Greb’s.

Dammed near everyone's does.

[IronDanHamza]

Dammed near everyone's does.

At Middleweight? Not sure I agree with that.

[Willow The Wisp]

IronDanHamza and Biledriver - Both good, knowledgeable posters operating on a board the really needs em'.
Check that.

[Mr Mitts]

Mate, shut the fuck up you soft cunt.

If you can't handle being challenged on your position then why the fuck are you on DISCUSSION BOARD, you clown.

You don't have a response because you're talking utter nonsense. Simple as that.

To consider Tiger's LHW career superior to his MW career is straight up retarded. It's night and day.

So either defend your position or shut the fuck up. Those are your two options.

That boy has anger issues, from the evidence that exists on here. I wonder if I will make his list for this observation. I imagine I might.
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[IronDanHamza]

That boy has anger issues, from the evidence that exists on here. I wonder if I will make his list for this observation. I imagine I might.
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Just soft as shit. He’s been posting here for about 20 years under the name Poet. Proper wolley.

I can’t for the life of me understand why you’d come on a discussion board and then not be willing to debate a topic. It defeats the entire purpose of coming on here.

Especially when you have out there views. I remember he did the same nonsense with NChristo back in the day, who was easily one of the best posters on here, because NChristo challenged him on having Carlos Monzon ranked at #10 at MW which is obviously an extremely unpopular opinion, to put it loosely.

Instead of defending his position he just did the same crap he’s doing here’s, flinging insults whilst also playing the victim.

Proper feminine cunt he is

[JAB5239]

At Middleweight? Not sure I agree with that.

Robinson is close. Arguments can certainly be made. But the fact that Greb could move up to lightheavy and even heavyweight and do as amazing as he did.......that seals the deal for me on this particular topic. He's a top ten light heavyweight for crying out loud and fought pretty much evenly with the guy arguably the greatest lightheavyweight ever, but universally seen as no lower than the third greatest of all time. Those are pretty telling accomplishments on top of his middleweight accomplishments.

[Biledriver]

That boy has anger issues, from the evidence that exists on here. I wonder if I will make his list for this observation. I imagine I might.
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There's only two ways you'll get blocked: 1. Be a bigoted piece of shi t; and 2. Pick a fight with me: I refuse to get into extended flame wars. If you act like a di ck towards me, I'm going to give it back to you in spades and then I'm going to block. It's that simple. I'm happy to DISCUSS boxing, but I'm not interested in as sholes who want to fight about shi t. Everything doesn't have to be a fu cking competition, but that's what people who come in all adversarial are trying to do and it pi sses me off real quick. "Debate Bros" are no-life losers who need to go outside and touch grass. Debates are a waste of time and they accomplish nothing. Nobody's mind gets changed. Bottom-line: Act like an as shole to me and I'll verbally sla p the Skittles out of your mouth and then block you.

As for IronDan, I find it absolutely hilarious that he's still screaming my name like he's my bi tch after he knows I blocked him. Btw, I wouldn't have seen his public menstruation if you hadn't quoted him. Apparently I hurt his wittle fee fees when I co ckblocked him by denying him the debate he so badly wanted to wank over. His disappearance from my computer screen is no loss. For what it's worth, I was originally planning to just end it without blocking out respect for a fellow old-school poster, but he continued to try to force a fight and I'm not good with that.

[JAB5239]

So I've been going on about young Corbett III. I messaged the IBRO for their take on this matter. This is what I received from Monte Cox.


Corbett lll was a clever boxing southpaw, although he was not a puncher as he had only 33 knockouts in his estimated 156 fights. Although it can be difficult to judge fighters of this era because they had so many fights I don't see any case for Young Corbett lll being a top 20 all time middleweight, and he made a bigger mark at welterweight where he would still fall short due to the large number of great fighters in the division history.

Corbett's record, like many fighters of the era, is a bit spotty. It should be noted, however, that he spent most of his career at lightweight and welterweight and didnt really compete at middleweight until he had over 130 fights. What are his best wins? He beat Jack Zivic in a welterweight bout, he won a couple of decisions over Ceferina Garcia these were welterweight bouts, he stopped Gus Lesnevich on cuts in a middlweight bout, won and lost to Billy Conn at middleweight, he lost to Lou Brouillard in a middleweight fight. In title fights he beat Jackie Fields for the NBA Welterweight title, but lost the welterweight title to Jimmy McLarnin on a 1st round ko in his next fight. He won a decision over Fred Apolstoli for California recognition as world middleweight champion but was stopped by Apostoli for NYSAC recognition in a rematch later that year. He fought 4 times after that and retired. Although he had a great career and is due respect for his accomplishments that resume falls a bit short of top 20 status at either welterweight or middleweight in my honest opinion.

Keep punching,
Monte Cox

I will say this.....i dont mind going to a source or listening to opposing views from my own. Just teach me something!! Im a fan, im here to learn. If i can teach anyone even just a little bit.....im happy with that. Give me the facts!!!

[IronDanHamza]

There's only two ways you'll get blocked: 1. Be a bigoted piece of shi t; and 2. Pick a fight with me: I refuse to get into extended flame wars. If you act like a di ck towards me, I'm going to give it back to you in spades and then I'm going to block. It's that simple. I'm happy to DISCUSS boxing, but I'm not interested in as sholes who want to fight about shi t. Everything doesn't have to be a fu cking competition, but that's what people who come in all adversarial are trying to do and it pi sses me off real quick. "Debate Bros" are no-life losers who need to go outside and touch grass. Debates are a waste of time and they accomplish nothing. Nobody's mind gets changed. Bottom-line: Act like an as shole to me and I'll verbally sla p the Skittles out of your mouth and then block you.

As for IronDan, I find it absolutely hilarious that he's still screaming my name like he's my bi tch after he knows I blocked him. Btw, I wouldn't have seen his public menstruation if you hadn't quoted him. Apparently I hurt his wittle fee fees when I co ckblocked him by denying him the debate he so badly wanted to wank over. His disappearance from my computer screen is no loss. For what it's worth, I was originally planning to just end it without blocking out respect for a fellow old-school poster, but he continued to try to force a fight and I'm not good with that.

This forum is public you dumb cunt.

Everyone can see it’s you that “started it” after being simply challenged on your position.

You’re a joke and the sooner you top yourself the better.

[IronDanHamza]

Robinson is close. Arguments can certainly be made. But the fact that Greb could move up to lightheavy and even heavyweight and do as amazing as he did.......that seals the deal for me on this particular topic. He's a top ten light heavyweight for crying out loud and fought pretty much evenly with the guy arguably the greatest lightheavyweight ever, but universally seen as no lower than the third greatest of all time. Those are pretty telling accomplishments on top of his middleweight accomplishments.

It’s a good point you make. You never really see Greb on LHW lists yet he beat a lot of the usual Top 10-15 all time ranked guys there

I have Monzon #1 myself. Definitely wouldn’t argue with Greb though.