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    #21
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - - Another false analogy by U equivalent to U swilling hogwash proclaiming it champagne. Where U AOL link? Pig Sty?
    What makes Beter a different species when it comes to human physiology? Tell us please... Is he an alien like E Musky?

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      #22
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Another false analogy by U equivalent to U swilling hogwash proclaiming it champagne. Where U AOL link? Pig Sty?
      You got no answers because you have no common sense. If you did you would realize any fighter cutting down to their lowest/best weight is going to put on weight in the next 24 hours or so. And you have zero, zilch , nada that Beter is stronger. These are FACTS, the same as you being an idiot.
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        #23
        Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

        Because you say so? Lol... You have no way of knowing whom would be bigger and it probably would not be Beter, At least not bigger than Dempsey. How many times do you need to be shown to be the fool before you think? Put on those big boys!! And use em like a big boy!!
        - - Beter in Tunney day would train down to a 210lb same day weighin.

        OK, we get that U knowledge of physiology is slim because U never trained nor studied.

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          #24
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - Beter in Tunney day would train down to a 210lb same day weighin.

          OK, we get that U knowledge of physiology is slim because U never trained nor studied.
          If beterbiev was born back then he'd have been smaller than being born when he was. U knowledge of physiology is slim, like Beter would have been. Try agian corky.

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            #25
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

            - - Beter in Tunney day would train down to a 210lb same day weighin.

            OK, we get that U knowledge of physiology is slim because U never trained nor studied.
            How the f*** do you know? You have no idea you freaking moron!!

            This is not a physiology issue this is an issue of you going full ****** and never coming back. You should just cut the crap... Are you really that dim?

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              #26
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              If beterbiev was born back then he'd have been smaller than being born when he was. U knowledge of physiology is slim, like Beter would have been. Try agian corky.
              It's like he just gets more and more ridiculous... Doesn't know what to quit. Wants people to give him a pass on sprouting out total inanities

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                #27
                Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                Yes.Benny Leonard and Hype Igoe watched the film of the fight over several days and corrected its running speed,their conclusion was Tunney was on the floor between 17 and 18 seconds. When Tunney floored Dempsey the referee began counting immediately,although Tunney at no time went to a neutral corner.
                Tunney had close ties to the Philadelphia mob he had borrowed $200,000 from its leader Max Boo Boo Hoff .
                The referee Dave Barry ran a speak easy.My point being Tunney is generally represented as this squeaky clean athlete and he wasn't.
                I wonder what was so pressing that Tunney needed to borrow $200,000. Maybe he owed another mobster.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Kid Cauliflower View Post

                  I wonder what was so pressing that Tunney needed to borrow $200,000. Maybe he owed another mobster.
                  It was 20K not 200K. Tunney only made a little less than 200K for the entire 1926 fight.

                  Gibson claimed the money was for training expenses. Then changed his story to grabbing a juicy land deal that needed immediate cash, (which never occurred.) Then tried to claim there was no deal or money.

                  Tunney never knew about the money or Boo Boo Hoff. It was all Billy Gibson, acting on his own behalf.
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                    #29
                    Tunney was slick and faced some tough dudes, but Beterbiev's power is insane. Size isn't everything in punching power.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Kid Cauliflower View Post
                      The illusory view of Tunney is that he was a weak puncher like other great pure boxers in and around his era--Loughran, Pep, Gibbons et al. Not a bit of it though! He had Marine corps muscles and a good punch to go with them. He was body-hard, but then most fighters are. He was not the pampered boy, as sometimes advertised today, who simply came at the right time and was lucky enough to beat a Dempsey who for 3 inactive years had sprawled regally on mountains of pillows while starlets fed him grapes.

                      Tunney was one of Apple's hard men of the era. This attitude and lifestyle came first in the sequence. Only later came the accolades, acting, authorship and socialites. He was a hard man first, who upon completing the war worked in logging camps with the express purpose of building himself up for a planned boxing career.

                      He also just happened to be smart, forward-thinking and better looking than most movies stars. That paid off. But only because he was a hard man already.

                      On the surface that we see, Tunney lived the American dream to its fullest. You couldn't do better.

                      And he does not have the stats of a weak puncher. I must be overlooking something.

                      You are overlooking nothing.
                      A near perfect fighter at 175 to 192.

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