Anyone watching this George Floyd trial?

[Real King Kong]

Is it true, after crosse examining one of the prosecution’s witnesses, the defence wants to call that witness back as a defence witness? Is that kind of thing common?

[HewJohnson]

Is it true, after crosse examining one of the prosecution’s witnesses, the defence wants to call that witness back as a defence witness? Is that kind of thing common?

I believe it is true, and I have no idea if that is common. Sounds quite odd.

Doesn’t seem like George Floyd’s witnesses are helping his case much.

[Zaroku]

Is it true, after crosse examining one of the prosecution’s witnesses, the defence wants to call that witness back as a defence witness? Is that kind of thing common?

Very uncommon. The defense often ask judges to make the witness available, to poke holes in his/her testimony as they gather info to debunk, but not to support the defenses case.

[Marvlus Marv]

It's almost comical to see that's exactly how the media and social justice groups are portraying him. Not as the lifelong criminal and addict that he was...the "gentle giant" who pressed a gun to a pregnant women's belly and threatened to kill both her and the unborn child during a home invasion robbery. There are a millions more George Floyd's across the nation who no one gives two shyts about unless they are assaulted or killed by a cop or white person. Suddenly they become martyrs and fallen angels.

I'm here in Britain, Scotland to be exact, and we've had the exact same hilarious reporting here. The media is just poison. I don't want to see anyone having a police officer's knee on their neck, but at the same time George Floyd was a career scumbag who had no place mixing with civilized society. I'm bored of this stage show designed to create disorder everywhere.

[travestyny]

Like I said, intentional felony assault is going to be a tough sell, just considering the fact he was a cop responding to a crime where the suspect was actively resisting. Now that a witness for the prosecution has said Chauvin could have initially used an even greater level of force, makes things even more difficult. It’s more the duration of the restraint, and Floyd’s response at this point, and being that they had a different vantage point and could say they were also distracted by the bystanders, it could be seen as a case of negligence more than anything.

I disagree. The force used trying to get him into the car isn't going to matter when the issue is regarding the force used when he is on the ground.

We've already established that we disagree on this, so it's pointless to keep going through this. But I don't know why you are falling for all of the silly things the defense is pulling out of their arse. Distracted by the bystanders when they have an armed officer watching the bystanders, who were following directions and standing back on the curb? Arguing that he kept a knee on the guy's neck because they were concerned about bystanders who were upset that he.....kept his knee on the guy's neck....???? It's silly. If he was concerned about the bystanders, he could have removed his knee. These arguments are pretty dumb, IMO.

The good news is that whether it's 2nd degree murder or 3rd degree murder, he'd most likely be facing the same amount of time behind bars, which is 12.5 years. I'm not sure if more time would be added on if manslaughter is found, but I highly doubt he gets past both of these murder charges.

[TonyGe]

So using deadly doses of Fentynal will not make it hard for you to breathe? It is known that it will. And who was strangling him? Was it the drugs or the knee?

Beyond a reasonable doubt..................Rockin'

You can't be serious. Chauvin applied enough pressure in his neck and for long enough to kill a perfectly health man. The question to me is why do you seem to want Chauvin to be found innocent. It's pretty obvious that Chauvin did not give a rat's ass whether he was physically harming Floyd. Whether his heart have out from the trauma of being strangled is irrelevant. Chauvin continued to apply pressure even after Floyd was unresponsive. The autopsy reports and expert witnesses indicate that he died from asphyxiation. Don't know if you have ever been on a jury that was dealing with a violent crime. I have. There is no reasonable doubt that the defense can come up with that Chauvin showed utter disregard for the welfare of Floyd.

[Zaroku]

I disagree. The force used trying to get him into the car isn't going to matter when the issue is regarding the force used when he is on the ground.

We've already established that we disagree on this, so it's pointless to keep going through this. But I don't know why you are falling for all of the silly things the defense is pulling out of their arse. Distracted by the bystanders when they have an armed officer watching the bystanders, who were following directions and standing back on the curb? Arguing that he kept a knee on the guy's neck because they were concerned about bystanders who were upset that he.....kept his knee on the guy's neck....???? It's silly. If he was concerned about the bystanders, he could have removed his knee. These arguments are pretty dumb, IMO.

The good news is that whether it's 2nd degree murder or 3rd degree murder, he'd most likely be facing the same amount of time behind bars, which is 12.5 years. I'm not sure if more time would be added on if manslaughter is found, but I highly doubt he gets past both of these murder charges.

My **** cousin an attorney often talks about lesser included offenses that juries sometimes choose when they think/feel not all of the elements of the offense have been met.

jury instructions from the judge will definitely impact this case.

So instead of 2nd degree murder, they might go with 3rd degree.

I hope it’s second degree.

He’s gonna get convicted and the judge will ultimately decide his sentence.

I just don’t like most cops. Any info on this judge and his sentencing history?

[Rockin']

You can't be serious. Chauvin applied enough pressure in his neck and for long enough to kill a perfectly health man. The question to me is why do you seem to want Chauvin to be found innocent. It's pretty obvious that Chauvin did not give a rat's ass whether he was physically harming Floyd. Whether his heart have out from the trauma of being strangled is irrelevant. Chauvin continued to apply pressure even after Floyd was unresponsive. The autopsy reports and expert witnesses indicate that he died from asphyxiation. Don't know if you have ever been on a jury that was dealing with a violent crime. I have. There is no reasonable doubt that the defense can come up with that Chauvin showed utter disregard for the welfare of Floyd.

Why would the defense ever claim that Chauvin 'showed utter disregard'? That's the prosecutions job. Have you any clue as to what is actually happening in this trial? ...........Rockin'

[travestyny]

My **** cousin an attorney often talks about lesser included offenses that juries sometimes choose when they think/feel not all of the elements of the offense have been met.

jury instructions from the judge will definitely impact this case.

So instead of 2nd degree murder, they might go with 3rd degree.

I hope it’s second degree.

He’s gonna get convicted and the judge will ultimately decide his sentence.

I just don’t like most cops. Any info on this judge and his sentencing history?

Hmm. I haven't looked into the judge. My guess is that he won't diverge from sentencing guidelines, which would mean 12.5 years for either murder charge. But I'm holding out hope that if Chauvin is found guilty of 2nd degree murder, which is what I feel he should be found guilty of, that the judge will see his crime as so heinous (as it was) that he will throw the book at him for something above the 12.5. He can give him as much as 40 years, from what I understand.

I can't imagine him getting off free or getting off only with manslaughter, but imagine if he only gets 3rd degree murder, knowing that the charge was almost dismissed before they began. That would mean that he'd be close to getting off with no murder charge, and possibly off completely free if they don't go with manslaughter. The only reason they reinstated the 3rd degree murder charge is because that's what they used when the white woman was killed by the black ****** cop, so they couldn't ignore the precedent.

[Rockin']

Chauvin continued to apply pressure even after Floyd was unresponsive. The autopsy reports and expert witnesses indicate that he died from asphyxiation.

Can ingesting Fentynal also cause asphyxiation? Yes, it can and does. Look up CO2 and Fentynal.............Rockin'