[Real Talk] Wilder is the worst thing to happen to the heavyweight division in years

[boliodogs]

He was guilty of being a cherrypicking champion but he fought legit top 5 contender Ortiz so nobody should complain about that. If he continues to defend his title against top contenders I have no problem with him. I think he is a loud mouthed bragging ignorant jerk but that's not unusual in boxing today. He does no harm and he is fun to watch and keeps the heavyweights interesting. Nobody is forced to watch him. He knocks everybody out so far and that's a good thing.

[R_Walken]

AJ pulled in 1.5 million buys in the U.K.

Along with that nearly 700k views on showtime FOR AN AFTERNOON FIGHT!!! Wow

Then he also got 10 million views in Germany which is the highest ever for a heavyweight fight.

Sure wilder getting 1 million free views on showtime is impressive but then again john ****ing Ruiz pulled in 600k ppv buys back in 2002.

Wilder is vastly unproven as a ppv star and he's demanding things from AJ who is the biggest name in the hw division

This is not hate chulo this is the truth

I guess reading comprehension isn’t your strongest attribute

When you factor in 1.5 million PPV ( his best #) in the uk and factor in the price they were going for and do a comparison to the price of a US PPV and include the exchange rate it brings in around the same as a US PPV doing 450-500k which is good but not earth shattering

So his fights bring in $ wise around 200-500k us PPVs. That’s why AJ and his team want in the US market

But to become a star in the states he’ll have to fight Wilder first ( the most popular American HW ) so yeah Wilder hasn’t sold a PPV but his name along with his strap means he has some leverage

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[lparm]

I guess reading comprehension isn’t your strongest attribute

When you factor in 1.5 million PPV ( his best #) in the uk and factor in the price they were going for and do a comparison to the price of a US PPV and include the exchange rate it brings in around the same as a US PPV doing 450-500k which is good but not earth shattering

So his fights bring in $ wise around 200-500k us PPVs. That’s why AJ and his team want in the US market

But to become a star in the states he’ll have to fight Wilder first ( the most popular American HW ) so yeah Wilder hasn’t sold a PPV but his name along with his strap means he has some leverage

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I guess math isn't your strongest attribute.

1.5 million buys is 1.5 million buys.

It's not 200k or 500k or whatever number you try and make it. It's still 1.5 million buys.

You're comparing a market that AJ hasn't sold ppvs in and speculative based on your unsubstantiated opinion.

1.5 million is 1.5 million.

Real talk.

[R_Walken]

I guess math isn't your strongest attribute.

1.5 million buys is 1.5 million buys.

It's not 200k or 500k or whatever number you try and make it. It's still 1.5 million buys.

You're comparing a market that AJ hasn't sold ppvs in and speculative based on your unsubstantiated opinion.

1.5 million is 1.5 million.

Real talk.

No I’m talking about the total revenue generated by PPVs from his fights

Yeah 1.5 might be more impressive # but financially it brings in the same as 450-500k US PPV and that’s his highest the rest probably do the equivalent of 200-300k which is good but not great

I get it you like AJ and don’t like Wilder but when you start a thread he’s a hype job and can’t sell or no one cares that isn’t the truth when you compare him to every other American boxer you come across as a whiny b.itch

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[HarvardBlue]

For being such a joke and a hypejob, Wilders sure causes a lot of insecurities on here.

[soul_survivor]

he will get kod by aj if he is brave enough to take the step up

[GGG Gloveking]

Was AJ that big of a name before Wlad? Since PPV draw seems to be the metric for measuring a fighter, how big was he?

[Boksfan]

How is Wilder bad for boxing, except being racist? He's an idiot outside of the ring but who cares if he keeps winning and beating bum after bum?

[kafkod]

So I guess your going to ignore that he has the 2nd largest gate at the Barclays

And in the past 3 years has the top 2 most watched fights on showtime and when he’s on Fox his fights are the top 3 most watched fights for that year

By your argument the only who is worth a damn is Canelo because he can sell PPVs

Even AJ who does crazy #s in the Uk when you factor in the price of the PPV and exchange rate he brings in the equivalent of around 250-450K US PPV that’s not exactly earth shattering

Again stop acting like a f.aggot because you don’t like him

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More like 400 - 600, if you do the math, dividing the total UK PPV income by $70. Nobody can do those numbers on US PPV against any opponent, not even Canelo.

Take into account the comparitive population size of the UK vs US ...

[kafkod]

Was AJ that big of a name before Wlad? Since PPV draw seems to be the metric for measuring a fighter, how big was he?

He was already a big name in the UK, getting PPV numbers around the Froch vs Groves level, but beating Wlad put him on a higher level still.