Which boxer has the best power mechanics?

[The Old LefHook]

Art Hafey comes to mind, by buggery!

[Boxing101_]

So not necessarily the best puncher but he just has the best skill when it comes to generating a big punch

No offense but What the hell kind of question is that?

[billeau2]

It has to be that kid from Japan Naoya Inoue. I watched a video of him on Rummy's Corner and his punches are a thing of beauty. Wilder although he gets a lot of flack has to have great mechanics because he's knocking fighters out with a single punch.

You bring up a great point. There are of course different dynamics. I am going to say that Wilder and one of my favorites, Mayorga had the gift of developing explosive power. Tyson had this as well, though it shows differently...With Wilder when he starts his assault his body maximizes force by whipping into his movements. Mayorga would do this as well; it is done by tensing some parts of the body and relaxing other parts in sequence and with efficient movement. Punches crack out like a whip.

[TonyGe]

You bring up a great point. There are of course different dynamics. I am going to say that Wilder and one of my favorites, Mayorga had the gift of developing explosive power. Tyson had this as well, though it shows differently...With Wilder when he starts his assault his body maximizes force by whipping into his movements. Mayorga would do this as well; it is done by tensing some parts of the body and relaxing other parts in sequence and with efficient movement. Punches crack out like a whip.

Thanks for the explanation. I was always wondering how he generated such power.

[LITTLE JOE]

Alexis Arguello. Watching that straight right and the follow through was just a thing of beauty. Textbook IMO.

[them_apples]

All time?

Duran p4p
Joe Louis
Chavez sr
Mike mccallum
Alexis arguello
Kostya tsu

Those are the best "punches" I have ever seen. Every shot is a balanced perfectly leveraged punch.

If we are talking contemporary fighters it was probably Cotto. This Inoue looks like he throws very nice punches as well.

I don't rate Canelo up there, he's too muscle bound his shots come too wide. Golovkin has good punching mechanics as well.

[ShoulderRoll]

Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey would be my two choices. Both deliver maximum power with pristine mechanics that are quite different from each other.

We are fortunate that Dempsey left behind a fairly detailed explanation of his approach in the book "Championship Fighting." Technical nuances like the falling step, leg spring, the power line, shoulder whirl, upward surge etc.

Initially as the weight comes forward the hand come out there are two things that will maximize our force: We want to hit our target with as small a part of our hand (pounds per Square inch) at the exact same time the foot hits the ground (Joe Gans was a master of this, Dempsey taught it to him).

In the interest of historical accuracy I have to ask when did Dempsey teach Joe Gans anything? And do you have a source that backs up your claim?

Joe Gans died of tuberculosis in 1910.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Marciano and it isn't even close. I've written at length about it before, no one gives a ****, so I'll just give you some **** to look at.

Step one, forget boxing. Boxing's official stance is the least scientific **** you could possibly say about power. "Power is something you are born with" is total nonsense. You have to know, even if you believe that garbage, you have to know not a single scientific paper was ever written centered around the belief that power is just some magic-natural gift from the gods that can't be explained.

Step two, look up some basic kinesiology, get the basics for the physics of the human body down. It's going to cover power, energy, force, velocity, etc.

Step three, with new eyes take a ****in' peak at the kinematic chains my man Marciano employs. ****in' ridculous this guy. Full body punching, everything behind the knuckle, everything, his entire body slung, hard, his entire skeletal structure forming a newton's cradle from fist to foot and back again, ther is no where for the energy to go but the opponent, AND, this is important, this is what cuts him above everyone else, no where for the equal-opposite reactive force to go but back to the point of it's origin, IE, the part of the body Marciano just hit. ****in' destroyer.


It's a GD shame so many people get so caught up in covaluted ass triangle theory BS they fail to see the absolutely inhuman marvel that is 925ft-lbs or how that stat's existence alone begs serious and in depth analysis by any who would consider themselves a student of the sport.

Instead, and you know it's true. You ****** mother ****ers say some **** like "but if George were measured doe"

Tell a gun nut with no boxing knowledge whatsoever about Marciano's 925 and see if they even believe it is humanly possible. Then tell them Marciano was only 185. Watch as the struggle to understand a man with more energy in his fist than half their ****in' gun cache can deliver.


It is amazing. I am a prosthetics inventor and history is my hobby. I became a fan of boxing because Marciano's form is scientifically ****ing amazing AND his historical reach equals it. Marciano uses bare knuckle era techniques, you know.....the time when boxing simply was centered around power, and through his bare knuckle era tech he found ancient sword and shield ways.

The dude is both a scientific and historical marvel, has the stats and record to back it up, but somehow, some way, not good enough to simple be acknowledged. Not even in a technical breakdown of power....ffs.


Want to see kinematic chains in boxing? Watch Rock

Want to see ancient hoplites in boxing? Watch Rock

Want to see bare knuckle techniques in the gloved era? Watch Rock.


Honestly, you don't even need a degree in physics. I don't believe that's true at all, I don't believe you need to spend much time in physics at all to understand Marciano. I believe most boxing fans have been taught to disregard him because he breaks a ton of boxing assumptions. Too small, too clumsy, too basic, lucky to have a weak era. Been a lot of weak eras, from 686BC to now there's only one Marciano. Instead of writing the man off maybe give him the smallest benefit of doubt and try to learn how he did what he did.

GOAT, King, Juggernaut of the h2h, okay, argue yer ***** ass triangle theory resume BS, but, when it comes to who structured their punches to deliver the most power, no argument, stfu, it's Rocky by a GD mile. George Foreman, Canelo , Joe Frazier, Earnie Shavers, etc don't even have the balls to give up defensive posture enough to even come close or be considered against Marciano's full force form.

Why do you talk?


Seriously, it hurts reading the stuff you type. It's like you're trying to injure us.

For one, I really, really like Marciano's mechanics. I get such a stiffy watching him KO guys.

But to act like he's on the level of a guy like Dempsey, or Robinson, or Williams, or Jackson, or Lomchenko... it's so ridiculous.

And "not even close" LOL. What you are seeing is a man with limited muscle ability compensate by using the whole of his body. But it's not efficient at all. Not even close. And it lacks fluidity.

Watch McGovern decapitate Gans. Then try to tell me what Marciano has on him. It's like watching a dude swim through cement.

[billeau2]

Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey would be my two choices. Both deliver maximum power with pristine mechanics that are quite different from each other.

We are fortunate that Dempsey left behind a fairly detailed explanation of his approach in the book "Championship Fighting." Technical nuances like the falling step, leg spring, the power line, shoulder whirl, upward surge etc.





In the interest of historical accuracy I have to ask when did Dempsey teach Joe Gans anything? And do you have a source that backs up your claim?

Joe Gans died of tuberculosis in 1910.

I don't remember where I had heard that unfortunately. You know me if I had a source I would have posted it! This is what I remember:

Apparently Joe Gans was making a lot of noise with his stepping and the source said he had some information from Dempsey in so emphasizing that stepping. Thats all i remember.

[ShoulderRoll]

I don't remember where I had heard that unfortunately. You know me if I had a source I would have posted it! This is what I remember:

Apparently Joe Gans was making a lot of noise with his stepping and the source said he had some information from Dempsey in so emphasizing that stepping. Thats all i remember.

Joe Gans was indeed famous for his falling step and how loud it was.

But Jack Dempsey wouldn't have been the one who taught it to him. Dempsey was only like 15 years old at the time of the Old Master's death.