Were Patterson and Ingo the worst heavyweight champs ever ?

[john l]

Your mouth has become a receptacle for defecation.

Everyone is s h i t t i n g in your mouth without impediment or hesitation.

You've been backed into a corner, and and your sloppy flailing isn't getting you out of it.


I am counting down the posts before your start telling us that Kimbo Slice was a fistic marvel - well beyond anything Willie Pep could fathom.

Unlike you, I have seen the men you named fight. There's not a lot of footage. And the technology of the day could be very unflattering to say the least. But these Kimbo Slice prototypes weren't legends. If you want legends from that era, look to McGovern, McFarland, Britton.

you're not selling the Kimbo schtick here, bud. Maybe go back to the general forum?

I know all about my fellow Irishmen "Terrible Terry" and Jack and Jonny too. You cant stump me son. Your so dumb you don't realize why we can tell you just pick names out of a hat because you should have named Gans who was better then those you named(his loss to Terry was fixed). And again wearing people down with you ******ity is NOT winning. BTW Qiut using the same thing I say to you its really PATHETIC.

[john l]

- -Jess not much younger than Johnson and grossly inexperienced in comparison, a blankie for you to hug on in yer blockhouse.

You know I want to just end this nonesence so here it goes. 1st are you the idiot who thinks Carnera is the best or the idiot who thinks its Willard? Ill take a guess and say your prob one and the same. So anyways here it is....Willard is the greatest PFP fighter of ALL TIME!!!!!! Just his stare could bring down grown men to their knees. He was SOOO fast and powerful that he once KOed an Elephant with a single blow(deal with that Duran). His defense made Sweet Pea, May and Pep look like "two ton" Tony Galento. His footwork made a young Clay look like he was fighting in mud. There will NEVER be another like him and might as well just shut down the sport, because he is perfection!!! Jess Willard..... Da mn the greatest to ever do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ben Bolt]

You've been backed into a corner

You cant stump me son.

Why bother to win an argument on internet ... On the net, I've been called everything from a lunatic to schizoid. It means, people have spent their precious time reading my posts. A victory in itself :-)

[john l]

That is unquestionably the ******est statement I have ever read on the internet. It makes Trump’s tweets look like high literature. If this were the case why doesn’t Naoya Inoue just move up to heavyweight and 1 punch KO everyone with body shots in the first round and become the undisputed heavyweight champion ? Why don’t you challenge Tyson Fury to a fight and hit him with a body shot ?

I wonder who the real boxrec warrior here is ?

OK you idiot this needs to stop, but one last thing before I end this. You can stop a guy with a body shot without being a big puncher. Is Micky Ward a big puncher???? No. He has a GREAT liver shot, but has NEVER KOed any top fighter with a head shot. So that blows your BS away, but this is what I really want to say because this started with Willard. Willard is the greatest PFP fighter of ALL TIME!!!!! He could just look at a guy and they would fall. His speed make a young RJJ look like an old Foreman. His Footwork make Pep look like a clumsy novice. His power, OH MY GOD, his power make Shavers look like Malignaggi. His defense was so good he once won a WHOLE FIGHT without throwing a punch(deal with that Pep). Jess Willard...……. perfection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[john l]

Why bother to win an argument on internet ... On the net, I've been called everything from a lunatic to schizoid. It means, people have spent their precious time reading my posts. A victory in itself :-)

Yea I will be the 1st to admit I have a prob walking away from fools, but when they keep flooding your inbox my Irish azz has a prob walking away.Part of it is I don't want young or new fans to read that sh it and regurgitate it back or think its anything but the raging of an idiot. This all started because he and his alts are trying to say Jess Willard is an ATG lmmfao.

[Ben Bolt]

Yea I will be the 1st to admit I have a prob walking away from fools, but when they keep flooding your inbox my Irish azz has a prob walking away.Part of it is I don't want young or new fans to read that sh it and regurgitate it back or think its anything but the raging of an idiot. This all started because he and his alts are trying to say Jess Willard is an ATG lmmfao.

Hi, john l. Me myself, old and tired, I follow the advise of composer Frank Zappa: "One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds."

But as I wrote before: this forum wouldn't be any fun if we all agreed. Keep fighting for your opinions!

[john l]

Hi, john l. Me myself, old and tired, I follow the advise of composer Frank Zappa: "One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds."

But as I wrote before: this forum wouldn't be any fun if we all agreed. Keep fighting for your opinions!

Thx and a very good(and true)quote. Yea ill keep fighting, but I need to pick my battles better. You could not be more right, about changing most people's minds at least the trolls. A wise man will always keep an open mind, but that don't mean he will ness change his mind.

[QueensburyRules]

You know I want to just end this nonesence so here it goes. 1st are you the idiot who thinks Carnera is the best or the idiot who thinks its Willard? Ill take a guess and say your prob one and the same. So anyways here it is....Willard is the greatest PFP fighter of ALL TIME!!!!!! Just his stare could bring down grown men to their knees. He was SOOO fast and powerful that he once KOed an Elephant with a single blow(deal with that Duran). His defense made Sweet Pea, May and Pep look like "two ton" Tony Galento. His footwork made a young Clay look like he was fighting in mud. There will NEVER be another like him and might as well just shut down the sport, because he is perfection!!! Jess Willard..... Da mn the greatest to ever do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- -Lotta hysteria.

Neither Jess nor Primo made Ibro top 20, but Jess knocked out one of their top five.

Just the facts ma'am. You're welcome.

[ShoulderRoll]

Johnson was 37, "well out of his prime, fat, and dissipated" as Jack Curley put it.

Yet he was still winning the fight easily before all of that and the heat caught up to him.

Just the facts.

[Dempsey19]

OK you idiot this needs to stop, but one last thing before I end this. You can stop a guy with a body shot without being a big puncher. Is Micky Ward a big puncher???? No. He has a GREAT liver shot, but has NEVER KOed any top fighter with a head shot. So that blows your BS away, but this is what I really want to say because this started with Willard. Willard is the greatest PFP fighter of ALL TIME!!!!! He could just look at a guy and they would fall. His speed make a young RJJ look like an old Foreman. His Footwork make Pep look like a clumsy novice. His power, OH MY GOD, his power make Shavers look like Malignaggi. His defense was so good he once won a WHOLE FIGHT without throwing a punch(deal with that Pep). Jess Willard...……. perfection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. I don’t understand if you can’t stand debate and people disagreeing with you and it makes you fly into such a rage and spout insults why are you on an Internet forum ?

2. I never said Willard is the GOAT or even an atg but he is good enough, and a bad enough match-up to beat Patterson. People like you insult Marciano saying he was a bum when beat a bunch of old men when Patterson beat the same old men when they were even older and wasn’t even undefeated despite being bigger than Rocky.

3. You think me and Rusty are alts after all the feuds we’ve had on this forum ? Do I seem like a misogynist, white supremacist, African-American hating Tyson Fury wanker ? Or do you think I’m an alt of Queenie ? Do I speak in ye olde English like a character out of Beowulf ?

4. Stop insulting people and calling them boxrec warriors. Please. It doesn’t make you look very good.