Were Patterson and Ingo the worst heavyweight champs ever ?

[Rusty Tromboni]

Willard was a big man, and strong from farm work.

Aside from that he wasn't anything special. Not impressed with the film of him.

He beat johnson well enough.

He also got up repeatedly from Dempsey's barrages.

He was primitive, and depended heavily on heart, athleticism and size, but I wouldn't say he was clearly any worse than any other heavyweight pre-Dempsey.

[Rusty Tromboni]

I’m no Rusty Tromboni, I don’t have any secret agenda.

You said Fitzsimmons was not a hard puncher and then you talk about a fight which he was losing on the cards and then got a 1 punch KO in ? The testament of a puncher ! Fitzsimmons was not a puncher at heavy ? The same Fitzsimmons who blew away Tom Sharkey, Gus Ruhlin and the 300 pound Ed Dunkhorst (in 1 if I remember correctly) Who once KOed 7 superheavyweights in 12 rounds on one night ? The same Fitzsimmons who when past his prime left Prime Jeffries’ face looking like an anatomy chart ?

Oh, it's not secret. It's probaby the most well played story across these fora. My agenda is never in doubt:

Expose fools, and do it as hilariously as possible.

If you s h i t on the rug, I will rub your nose in it... and have a dinner party to invite all the neighbors over to watch.

Say something moronic, and you will pay.

[john l]

That's adorable. You know how to use BoxRec.

I am going to print out this post of yours, hang it on my fridge.

And guess what, buddy!?!?

You get a STICKER!!! yay!

If you stop eating the crayons... You'll get TWO!

LMAO we already proved who is running to boxrec and that's YOU and what in my post did I need to run to boxrec for??? They only give records not a list of former great champs or contenders. Its really pathetic to use the same thing I told you "Quit going to boxrec and do some research or watch some tapes" and then you try an regurgitate it back to me lol. Now really just go bug someone else, because your too dumb to teach and you HAVE NOTHING to teach me.

[john l]

I’m no Rusty Tromboni, I don’t have any secret agenda.

You said Fitzsimmons was not a hard puncher and then you talk about a fight which he was losing on the cards and then got a 1 punch KO in ? The testament of a puncher ! Fitzsimmons was not a puncher at heavy ? The same Fitzsimmons who blew away Tom Sharkey, Gus Ruhlin and the 300 pound Ed Dunkhorst (in 1 if I remember correctly) Who once KOed 7 superheavyweights in 12 rounds on one night ? The same Fitzsimmons who when past his prime left Prime Jeffries’ face looking like an anatomy chart ?

Quit pulling names off boxrec or wherever your getting you messed up info. Yea Fitz stopped a inactive and old Corbett with a BODY SHOT. You do not need to be a big puncher to stop someone with a body shot. Now I told you in last post that Fitz was VERY good fighter and even a puncher at 75 or below. He was not a big puncher at heavy a decent one, but far from a KO artist. Now just give it up, im done listening to your BS "opinions". Tell someone else about the great Ed Dunkhorst lmmfas!!!

[john l]

Willard was a big man, and strong from farm work.

Aside from that he wasn't anything special. Not impressed with the film of him.

Amen! He was big and strong and had a hell of a heart, but I see NOTHING more.

[QueensburyRules]

Amen! He was big and strong and had a hell of a heart, but I see NOTHING more.

- -JJOHNSON was special splotto, quite enough for Big Jess when it mattered.

[john l]

- -JJOHNSON was special splotto, quite enough for Big Jess when it mattered.

Yea he did well vs a 147yr old Johnson who had not fought In quite awhile. Also lost every rd until Johnson gassed. Now quit quoting me I was not even talking to you. And wearing people out with your ******ity is not "winning" Really don't like the block list, but you may be my 1st.

[Rusty Tromboni]

LMAO we already proved who is running to boxrec and that's YOU and what in my post did I need to run to boxrec for??? They only give records not a list of former great champs or contenders. Its really pathetic to use the same thing I told you "Quit going to boxrec and do some research or watch some tapes" and then you try an regurgitate it back to me lol. Now really just go bug someone else, because your too dumb to teach and you HAVE NOTHING to teach me.

Your mouth has become a receptacle for defecation.

Everyone is s h i t t i n g in your mouth without impediment or hesitation.

You've been backed into a corner, and and your sloppy flailing isn't getting you out of it.


I am counting down the posts before your start telling us that Kimbo Slice was a fistic marvel - well beyond anything Willie Pep could fathom.

Unlike you, I have seen the men you named fight. There's not a lot of footage. And the technology of the day could be very unflattering to say the least. But these Kimbo Slice prototypes weren't legends. If you want legends from that era, look to McGovern, McFarland, Britton.

you're not selling the Kimbo schtick here, bud. Maybe go back to the general forum?

[QueensburyRules]

Yea he did well vs a 147yr old Johnson who had not fought In quite awhile. Also lost every rd until Johnson gassed. Now quit quoting me I was not even talking to you. And wearing people out with your ******ity is not "winning" Really don't like the block list, but you may be my 1st.

- -Jess not much younger than Johnson and grossly inexperienced in comparison, a blankie for you to hug on in yer blockhouse.

[Dempsey19]

You do not need to be a big puncher to stop someone with a body shot.

That is unquestionably the ******est statement I have ever read on the internet. It makes *****’s tweets look like high literature. If this were the case why doesn’t Naoya Inoue just move up to heavyweight and 1 punch KO everyone with body shots in the first round and become the undisputed heavyweight champion ? Why don’t you challenge Tyson Fury to a fight and hit him with a body shot ?

I wonder who the real boxrec warrior here is ?