Could Bowe circa 1992 handle a 1960 Sonny Liston

[QueensburyRules]

The way they 'handle the arena' has affected boxing skill?

What are you on about?

- - Pep, U jus too ol', slo', and dum movements to know.

Little known fact: 13 yr old boys, girls, and alphabetized others wif smarty panty phones faster, smarter, and infinitely better movements than Mr $$$, through their eyeballs, his toilet movements are still unsurpassed compared to them.

[JAB5239]

So since joe was the best ever that means time has stopped

The way they handle the arena
is the same
boxers get paid the same
the arena sizes are the same
the skill and movement is the same
The height and weight for the average boxer is the same
Fighters fight the same amount of times

Cause all of this has to be true since you say Joe was the best ever that means boxing and no other sport has advanced in any area even outside the ring

is all of this true since boxing never got more advanced since joes time

Wow, you literally didnt answr either of my "specific " questions.

[JAB5239]

So since joe was the best ever that means time has stopped

So that means no classes of weight changed medicine or training has changed

The way they handle the areana is the same and boxers get paid the same is none of this true

Cause all of this has to be true since you say Joe was the best ever that means boxing and no other sport has advanced in any area even outside the ring

is all of this true since boxing never got more advanced since joes time

First off, i never said Louis couldnt be beat. Styles make fights and there is always a style to counter another. What im asking, "specifically", is how skills have changed? I mean i can tell you how they've changed, but i want to hear your opinion on that. You make claims but never explain rhem. How have boxing skills become better with the evolution of man?

[Ascended]

First off, i never said Louis couldnt be beat. Styles make fights and there is always a style to counter another. What im asking, "specifically", is how skills have changed? I mean i can tell you how they've changed, but i want to hear your opinion on that. You make claims but never explain rhem. How have boxing skills become better with the evolution of man?

no classes of weight changed medicine or training has changed

The way they handle the areana is the same and boxers get paid the same is none of this true

Cause all of this has to be true since you say Joe was the best ever that means boxing and no other sport has advanced in any area even outside the ring

is all of this true since boxing never got more advanced since joes time

I want a yes or no to these questions cause you did say joe was the most skilled ever so my questions need answers i dont know why you avoided this since last week but it needs to be answered before I'll answer anything else from you

[Willie Pep 229]

How the arena gets handled; how much they get paid, ETC. doesn't affect the skill set of boxing.

No new punches have been developed, no new footwork choreographed, the skill set has not changed since Louis.

Lewis never did a damn thing in the ring that would have caught Louis by surprise.

Yes, training methods and PEDs have changed the athleticism of the game, but the skill set hasn't gone anywhere profound.

Louis could well be the most skilled fighter ever, then again maybe not. But he is not automatically disqualified because he fought in the 1930s.

Nothing consequential to boxing skill has developed since Louis.

I still want to know how 'handling the arena' affects a boxer's skill set?

[JAB5239]

How the arena gets handled; how much they get paid, ETC. doesn't affect the skill set of boxing.

No new punches have been developed, no new footwork choreographed, the skill set has not changed since Louis.

Lewis never did a damn thing in the ring that would have caught Louis by surprise.

Yes, training methods and PEDs have changed the athleticism of the game, but the skill set hasn't gone anywhere profound.

Louis could well be the most skilled fighter ever, then again maybe not. But he is not automatically disqualified because he fought in the 1930s.

Nothing consequential to boxing skill has developed since Louis.

I still want to know how 'handling the arena' affects a boxer's skill set?

Exfreakinactly!!!!!

[billeau2]

- -Started U new topic and answered U own dumbo question...priceless...

Big Dummy throw his belt in the trash before he fights Sonny...FACT!!!

[billeau2]

no classes of weight changed medicine or training has changed

The way they handle the areana is the same and boxers get paid the same is none of this true

Cause all of this has to be true since you say Joe was the best ever that means boxing and no other sport has advanced in any area even outside the ring

is all of this true since boxing never got more advanced since joes time

I want a yes or no to these questions cause you did say joe was the most skilled ever so my questions need answers i dont know why you avoided this since last week but it needs to be answered before I'll answer anything else from you

Since when does it mean Boxing AND no other sport has advanced? Your a moron but your ******ity serves a useful purpose in this case: Many people also assume that all sports have parallel development which is an assumption and a wrong assumption as well.

For example: Is construction today more advanced than it was in the past? Depends... Certainly we have lighter and stronger materials. Things are easier to build... BUT there is not a craftsman alive who could build the things that were built as historical monuments in the past. EVEN a San Francisco Victorian, many of which were prefabs one could order out of a SEars Roebuck catalogue, with parts manufactured in shops South of market street, would be impossible for many construction builders to properly construct. So... did construction evolve? Rhetorical question.

Point is NO!!! boxing and other sports do not necessarily evolve along similar lines, or even evolve at all.

[Ascended]

How the arena gets handled; how much they get paid, ETC. doesn't affect the skill set of boxing.

No new punches have been developed, no new footwork choreographed, the skill set has not changed since Louis.

Lewis never did a damn thing in the ring that would have caught Louis by surprise.

Yes, training methods and PEDs have changed the athleticism of the game, but the skill set hasn't gone anywhere profound.

Louis could well be the most skilled fighter ever, then again maybe not. But he is not automatically disqualified because he fought in the 1930s.

Nothing consequential to boxing skill has developed since Louis.

I still want to know how 'handling the arena' affects a boxer's skill set?

glad you answered cause jab was scared to and has been since last week cause he knew where I was going he didnt wanna get trapped

No he automatically is dq cause we have video showing he isn't the most skilled when you admitted training has changed i told jab last week this is no joke my brother came to visit me I don't see him often

He is a boxing fan he never seen ike as you know Ike wasnt a big name so alot of people might have skipped over his fights

my brother has seen the Joe era and he had seen fighters from 70s-90s and can see the changes

I showed him a ike match and told him they say this man would be beat by joe he laughed and shook his head that was from his memory and visual of seeing joe matches,
and said come on

now my brother isn't like me he doesn't insult the era in a raw way like me so he has more respect then me

But he has said more then once in these exact words joe Louis era was good they paved the way but fighters get more advanced its easy to see fighters always take from other eras and add to it he was to small and slow you can ask jab if you think I'm lying he will tell you I told him this last week


The arena doesn't effect skill i was just asking of any areas changed the point is that you did admit changes have been made so that means everything as a whole change including skills and movement which i explained earlier on how wlad fights and jers and bill fought

You can't admit that 1 area has changed in the sport without all of it changing not at once but over time and it has as a whole and has been changing every since the joe era ended it was different in 70s-90s and isn't the same now

As far as the topic goes we never seen anything like bowe in Joe's era the closest we have is jers and he wasnt as polished wasnt a hw and wasnt as dangerous or used as much pressure as bowe

[JAB5239]

No he automatically is dq cause we have video showing he isn't the most skilled when you admitted training has changed i told jab last week this is no joke my brother came to visit me I don't see him often

He is a boxing fan he never seen ike as you know Ike wasnt a big name so alot of people might have skipped over his fights

my brother has seen the Joe era and he had seen fighters from 70s-90s and can see the changes

I showed him a ike match and told him they say this man would be beat by joe he laughed and shook his head that was from his memory and visual of seeing joe matches

and said come on now my brother isn't like me he doesn't insult the era in a raw way like me so he has more respect then me

But he has said more then once in these exact words joe Louis era was good they paved the way but fighters get more advanced its easy to see fighters always take from other eras and add to it he was to small and slow you can ask jab if you think I'm lying he will tell you I told him this last week

How did the fighters get more advanced? Not sport science, equipment, steroids and whatnot, but training and skills. What has changed in these two "specific" things? Its already been proven historians, trainers, sports writers etc still consider Louis the most skilled heavyweight ever. I can show link after link to back this up. Yet we should believe you and your brother? Have you ever even boxed?