Ched Evans...the pressure builds. Is it fair?

[Funky_Monk]

Convicted rapist Ched Evans, who is currently appealing his conviction after being freed early, Is back training with a football team here in the UK.

Jessica Ennis, an Olympic medalist entered the debate, by asking the football team to remove her name from the a stand of the ground should he return to the team fully. Increasing pressure on the team not to take him back.

The case is incredibly complex and addresses many of the issues at the heart of **** cases, convictions and rehabilitation.

What are people's thoughts?

[El-blanco]

If he really did it, he deserves to die.

[Pretty Boy1]

I'm not sure whether he deserved to be found guilty or not because it's a ****ed up case but let's just say he was guilty. He went to prison, served 2.5 years. He's served his time so why should he be persecuted further and stopped from earning a living? Some may say he never served enough time in prison but to put it in to context, he ****d someone and served 2.5 years, Oscar Pistorious murdered his girlfriend and will only see 10 months of prison time. I think it's unfair for these famous/athletes to pressurise the club in to not bringing him back.

[squealpiggy]

I'm somewhat torn on this. I mean if he has served his time and cooperated with any demands made of him with regards to rehabilitation then what sort of message does it send that he is not being allowed to put his life back together? Are we claiming that nobody can be rehabilitated? Or are we suggesting that rehabilitation is irrelevant and that social punishments should continue long after custodial ones have concluded?

Forget that it was ***ual assault he was convicted of for a moment. If he had caused bodily harm by beating somebody up would we even be having this conversation?

[Funky_Monk]

I'm not sure whether he deserved to be found guilty or not because it's a ****ed up case but let's just say he was guilty. He went to prison, served 2.5 years. He's served his time so why should he be persecuted further and stopped from earning a living? Some may say he never served enough time in prison but to put it in to context, he ****d someone and served 2.5 years, Oscar Pistorious murdered his girlfriend and will only see 10 months of prison time. I think it's unfair for these famous/athletes to pressurise the club in to not bringing him back.

I agree largely with what you say. I think a lot is fuelled by resentment that he will earn such a high wage. I'd suggest he is still suitable to work as a footballer in that he doesn't pose a danger in that he doesn't work in an environment where vulnerable people work.
The club should decide if his actions no longer make him suitable to fulfil other duties.
I don't buy the role model arguments but if part of his job is to work in the community and represent sponsors there may be a conflict of interest.

I do think she is in a unique position above others commenting, and has a right to decide whether she wishes to associate with a club based on their decisions.

[Funky_Monk]

I'm somewhat torn on this. I mean if he has served his time and cooperated with any demands made of him with regards to rehabilitation then what sort of message does it send that he is not being allowed to put his life back together? Are we claiming that nobody can be rehabilitated? Or are we suggesting that rehabilitation is irrelevant and that social punishments should continue long after custodial ones have concluded?

Forget that it was ***ual assault he was convicted of for a moment. If he had caused bodily harm by beating somebody up would we even be having this conversation?

He is part caught in a catch 22 though, he can't/ wont apologise as he doesn't believe himself to be guilty.

[squealpiggy]

I agree largely with what you say. I think a lot is fuelled by resentment that he will earn such a high wage. I'd suggest he is still suitable to work as a footballer in that he doesn't pose a danger in that he doesn't work in an environment where vulnerable people work.
The club should decide if his actions no longer make him suitable to fulfil other duties.
I don't buy the role model arguments but if part of his job is to work in the community and represent sponsors there may be a conflict of interest.

And this is the bottom line, the sponsors don't want to be associated with a convicted rapist.

He is part caught in a catch 22 though, he can't/ wont apologise as he doesn't believe himself to be guilty.

Yes, I agree with this. But if he conceded that he was in fact guilty and apologised I don't think think that the people campaigning against him rejoining the club would say "Oh, that's ok then!"

[Kris Silver]

So only folk in certain industries can recontinue there career whilst some others can't?

It stinks to be honest. The idea is you serve your time and are given your freedom again. You can't take people's career after too. If his employer wants to hire him they are perfectly entitled to let him continue his rehabilitation.

In any case, if you followed the story it strongly suggests they just had drunken but consented ***.

[Rapid Counter]

If he was a plumber, toilet cleaner or road sweeper nobody would have a problem with him going back to his job. Its the fact the he will go back to being overpaid and overprivaliged that most people cant stomach.

Personally i couldnt care less what happens with the guy but i think if youve served you time you deserve a second chance. But then i dont think serving 2.5 years for **** long enough anyway..

[gingeralbino]

the club are under no obligation to take him back as he isn't under contract. if they decide that he'll damage the clubs image with fans and sponsors too much they can tell him to look elsewhere for a club.

and as a free man who has served his time he can play for any club that wants him, in the uk or europe. someone will probably take him even if its a lower league with less pay and the abuse away fans will give him will ensure his life wont be as easy as it once was




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