Ched Evans...the pressure builds. Is it fair?

[Funky_Monk]

Actually it makes him a convicted rapist.

Should we let convicted murderers back on teams too? *****philes who serve a couple of years for child abuse? Where do we draw the line, is **** not serious enough?

Not getting at you Jon, just asking the questions. A lot of the lenient sentiment towards him is based on a feeling he's not really guilty, if he had attacked a girl in an alleyway and ****d her I think reaction would be very different.



How come? most British kids look up to footballers. If it was Rooney the rapist, do you think that would fly with most parents? He'd probably have to go play abroad or something. He'd never be accepted back.

My point is that role model is branded about, it's subjective and also something that is bestowed upon people where they have no say.

The abroad comment Clegg made irked me essentially make it someone's elses problem

[Weebler I]

My point is that role model is branded about, it's subjective and also something that is bestowed upon people where they have no say.

The abroad comment Clegg made irked me essentially make it someone's elses problem

They have a say all right for whether they like it or not, it comes with the job, they're public figures. They chose to pursue that career.

They're well aware of it too, because they all idolised footballers growing up i.e. role models, and the major clubs all employ people to advise players of what kind of behaviour to avoid.

I didn't see Clegg's comment.

[Welsh Jon]

Actually it makes him a convicted rapist.

Should we let convicted murderers back on teams too? *****philes who serve a couple of years for child abuse? Where do we draw the line, is **** not serious enough?

Not getting at you Jon, just asking the questions. A lot of the lenient sentiment towards him is based on a feeling he's not really guilty, if he had attacked a girl in an alleyway and ****d her I think reaction would be very different.


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Yeah I get what you are saying. But football clubs should not have to make calls about the morality of their players.

The problem is the sentence was too lenient. He should have served more than 2 and a half years for ****. But because he didn't is it now up to football clubs to punish him because the justice system didn't? That's ******. Professional football clubs should in no way be the moral compass of this country.

[Weebler I]

Yeah I get what you are saying. But football clubs should not have to make calls about the morality of their players.

The problem is the sentence was too lenient. He should have served more than 2 and a half years for ****. But because he didn't is it now up to football clubs to punish him because the justice system didn't? That's ******. Professional football clubs should in no way be the moral compass of this country.

The FA needs to do it for them. My view is professional football clubs should not employ convicted rapists.

[Funky_Monk]

They have a say all right for whether they like it or not, it comes with the job, they're public figures. They chose to pursue that career.

They're well aware of it too, because they all idolised footballers growing up i.e. role models, and the major clubs all employ people to advise players of what kind of behaviour to avoid.

I didn't see Clegg's comment.

I don't believe every footballer wants to be a role model. That's just my opinion.

I think every organisation should have a moral compass but part of that should be rehabilitation of offenders. Maybe he should work his way back in someway.

[Weebler I]

I don't believe every footballer wants to be a role model. That's just my opinion.

I think every organisation should have a moral compass but part of that should be rehabilitation of offenders. Maybe he should work his way back in someway.

Do you extend that to *****philes and murderers too? or just for rapists?

Again not getting at you either, I understand where you're coming from but I do think a line needs to be drawn as harsh it may seem.

[Robbie Barrett]

Nobody is stopping them signing him.

[Welsh Jon]

The FA needs to do it for them. My view is professional football clubs should not employ convicted rapists.

But my point still remains how are football administrators qualified to judge people's morality? Who gets to decide where the line is drawn?

If someone convicted of killing a man due to dangerous driving is allowed to continue to play after serving his time why shouldn't a rapist? Is **** worse than killing someone? Is an FA bureaucrat the man to make that call?

If he criminal justice system has deemed him rehabilitated he should be free to go on with his life. As a *** offender there are certain jobs that are barred to him, but I don't see why professional footballer should be one of them.

I don't think the role model arguement holds that much water. If young men get women drunk to take advantage of them ***ually they are not doing it to emulate Ched Evans.

[Funky_Monk]

Do you extend that to *****philes and murderers too? or just for rapists?

Again not getting at you either, I understand where you're coming from but I do think a line needs to be drawn as harsh it may seem.

I agree with you but as I said earlier its for the employer to decide if a criminal past and convictions makes them unsuitable for the role.

[Funky_Monk]

Ultimately I think he should have resolved his appeal first, then he could have apologised or be clear. Poor management really.