Portland, OR school shooting - CNN

[-jose-]

So should we have armed guards in schools or do like the NRA has actually suggested and that's arm students in school?

one trained/armed guard in school premises at all times like I mentioned before.

that's the only way to fight against these type of people.

shoot to kill if the intruder has a weapon.

[SBleeder]

So should we have armed guards in schools or do like the NRA has actually suggested and that's arm students in school?

You know that was a complete hoax, don't you? The NRA has never suggested arming students.

[ßringer]

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2. Then stop making schools sitting duck zones and allow for armed resistance like we do in courthouses, airports, and all other places that are deemed to be of high importance.

A lunatic knows that he can open fire in a school for at least 5-7 minutes before anybody shoots back at him.

Guns have no place in school zones. None.

As I've said earlier, I'd support an armed police officer on site at all times, but that's never going to pass a vote here in America. We won't even pass legitimate healthcare reform or legalize marijuana, FFS.

Regarding the bolded - As opposed to where, exactly?

I'm pretty sure you could open fire anywhere in public and go a good 5-7 minutes without confrontation. Why? Because people don't go about their daily lives expecting to be the next victim of random gun violence. Even trained police officers can't stop a shooter in that short a period of time because they have to approach the situation cautiously so as to minimize casualties.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

You know that was a complete hoax, don't you? The NRA has never suggested arming students.

That was my bad, it was actually Larry Pratt, head of Gun Owners of America that suggested arming both kids and teachers in schools.

[SBleeder]

Guns have no place in school zones. None.

Apparently criminals aren't getting that message.

As I've said earlier, I'd support an armed police officer on site at all times, but that's never going to pass a vote here in America. We won't even pass legitimate healthcare reform or legalize marijuana, FFS.

You just said that "guns have no place in school zones"... why do you want an armed cop there? Cops tend to be poorer shooters than CCW holders.

Regarding the bolded - As opposed to where, exactly?

I'm pretty sure you could open fire anywhere in public and go a good 5-7 minutes without confrontation. Why? Because people don't go about their daily lives expecting to be the next victim of random gun violence. Even trained police officers can't stop a shooter in that short a period of time because they have to approach the situation cautiously so as to minimize casualties.

Many of us indeed do go about our lives expecting violence to arise at any moment. There have been numerous shootings stopped by armed citizens.

[SBleeder]

That was my bad, it was actually Larry Pratt, head of Gun Owners of America that suggested arming both kids and teachers in schools.

Do you have a link to where Pratt said this? He has suggested allowing teachers to be armed; I've never heard him say anything about arming students.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Do you have a link to where Pratt said this? He has suggested allowing teachers to be armed; I've never heard him say anything about arming students.

I honestly can't find the video, but there's a video where he is talking about the father of one of the victims of the Santa Barbara shooting. He calls the dude an idiot, then he suggests that if his daughter was trained and armed, she would have lived.

[ßringer]

Apparently criminals aren't getting that message.

So you're basically branding these spree shooters criminals despite no criminal background whatsoever in the majority of cases?

I take umbrage with that. They're mentally ill individuals, not common criminals.

You just said that "guns have no place in school zones"... why do you want an armed cop there? Cops tend to be poorer shooters than CCW holders.

I don't want an armed cop in school zones but, unlike *************, I'm actually willing to compromise on this issue and step outside of my own comfort zone.

Regarding the latter statement...Well, it's just patently false and I can't believe that even you are moronic enough to believe it.





Those are comprehensive statistics that prove otherwise, not a few isolated incidents where a citizen Rambo prevailed for you to fap to.

Many of us indeed do go about our lives expecting violence to arise at any moment.

Yeah, and we call those people paranoid lunatics. You know what they all have in common? They all own a small arsenal of firearms and daydream about using them to thwart criminal activity. Just. Like. You.

There have been numerous shootings stopped by armed citizens.

For every one of those examples you can provide me with, I can provide quadruple the amount of shootings that weren't stopped by civilian 'Dirty Harry.'

The more I talk to you about this issue, the more I realize how absolutely ****ing nuts you are. Seriously, you're sitting there telling me that the solution to rampant gun violence in America is to arm more people, and you're not even doing it with a single shred of sarcasm.

How did you become so obtuse? Were you just born a complete ****tard, or did you have to work at it really hard for your entire life, finally resulting in the colossal moron that stands before me now telling me that more people carrying guns will solve the problem?

[squealpiggy]

You just said that "guns have no place in school zones"... why do you want an armed cop there? Cops tend to be poorer shooters than CCW holders.

The most important weapon a cop has isn't his side arm, his pepper spray, taser or cuffs. It's his radio. Because a radio brings in more cops.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Bringer coming in with Mike Tyson bolo's....holy **** he's destroying fools.

This is the reality that ************* will NEVER admit because they have been taught that GUNS = PATRIOTISM.

If you are a gun owner, you are more of an American than the avg, chi tea, drinking lib who hates America and wears Che Guevara t-shirts and is also probably a f@g.

In reality there are people like me, who are middle of the road politically and own a gun, but wish I lived in a country were guns weren't so easy to obtain for anybody. Who is for gun laws that are geared towards making it harder for people to walk into a "gun show" and buy a ***in grenade launcher.

These shootings are out of control and the NRA loves it when they happen. Why? Because gun sales go through the roof because people like Wayne Lapierre and Larry Pratt scare the bejesus out of people and they go out and buy more guns.

We know the right wing politicians are in the pockets of the gun lobbyists and even though statistically even NRA card carrying members want gun reform, conservative politicians will never even discuss it.

It's about money folks, selling guns in America is big business and they make it patriotic and ***y, and you dumb ***s fall for it hook line and sinker.