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    Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
    I'm fine with that i guess, the same preist touching little boys dont wanna marry 2 men.

    But thats a slippery slope,
    a slippery slope full of religious discrimination.....but no gay discrimination...cant have that.

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      Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
      that its fine, as long as its specifically stated that all religious organizations have the explicit right to deny marriage services to any one on provable religious grounds.

      as well in a sense your redefining marriage, so if things arnt worded correctly business mergers could reap benefits claiming married status amongst other things.
      Listen sometimes certain institutions have to be redefined in order to facilitate human civil rights

      Just like blacks had to be "redefined" as man rather then property

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        Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
        Listen sometimes certain institutions have to be redefined in order to facilitate human civil rights

        Just like blacks had to be "redefined" as man rather then property
        its fine to redefine it? when did i say it shouldnt be redefined?

        i simply stated that wording needs to be very careful, to keep people from abusing the change.

        we dont need to make businesses a person again....

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          Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
          a slippery slope full of religious discrimination.....but no gay discrimination...cant have that.
          They are would be contradicting policies, i can agree on that. Denying marriage because of ***ual preference vs recognizing religious freedom

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            Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View Post
            its fine to redefine it? when did i say it shouldnt be redefined?

            i simply stated that wording needs to be very careful, to keep people from abusing the change.

            we dont need to make businesses a person again....
            Im not really sure where you're going with this

            Regular marriage is abused sooooo much

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              Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
              Yes i am, and biology has shown that many animals exhibit *******ual tendencies
              Yet you can't name a single one.

              Are you saying its only possible to be exhibit gay tendencies if you have recreational ***?
              I am saying that if an animal exclusively has *** for the purposes of procreation, then they're probably not having gay ***, nor would they exhibit gay tendencies. As I've previously stated, what many observe as "gay ***" among animals is neither gay nor ***.

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                Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                Im not really sure where you're going with this

                Regular marriage is abused sooooo much
                im not making any angle, im just saying that it needs to be worded correctly, its not something that can be rushed into rashly.

                its not so much a reason against it but a second condition to it being fine.

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                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                  So equal rights are rewards?

                  When slavery ended, the blacks were simply rewarded with their freedom?

                  why should str8 married couples get extra benefits that gays dont, you know like benefits, next in kin, inheritance etc?

                  How is allowing to gays the same rights as non gays giving them "extra privileges ?
                  They shouldn't, it probably put in place because that environment breeds the next generation.

                  Maybe giving extra benefits for just having children could be the way to go, but then that could lead to people just have children to early and more broken homes and the children suffering.


                  Why should gay/lesbians get these rights? For just having a ***ual relationship?

                  What happens if someone is not married can't they have the same rights.

                  Example Floyd might want 50 cent to be his next of kin to be 50 cent, now say if their relationship is not ***ual, it wouldn't be allowed but if was they would get those rights.

                  If people want the right to name one other person for next of kin and inheritance rights, then it should be open to everybody.

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                    Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                    What greater problem? They are already allowed to marry in 70% of US states, so why would there be a problem

                    As opposed as you'd think America is to cousin lovin, you'd think the % of states allowing it would like low, kinda like gay marriage (12%), yet its 70%
                    It is frowned upon and not that common, if it was it would be a problem and the birth defect would put a strain society.

                    I'm opposed to giving people extra rights for not giving anything back to society.

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                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      It is frowned upon and not that common, if it was it would be a problem and the birth defect would put a strain society.

                      I'm opposed to giving people extra rights for not giving anything back to society.
                      So because *******uality is more "common", it shoule be illegal

                      And how does equal rights = extra rights? Please explain

                      New York calculated that the states economy would gain $210 mil in the 3 years following gay marriage allowance. SOunds like giving back to society to me

                      Now explain to me exactly what banning gay marriage contributes to society, except discrimination of course

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