Caitlin Clark: First Rookie in WNBA To Ever Record a Triple Double

[The Big Dunn]

I think that's obvious if CC is the face of the WNBA. Again, I said there is an argument that it's really Wilson.

Who do you think deserves to be the face of the WNBA based on performance?

Clark is always going to be the most popular player for the foreseeable future.

I do think the league is doing a lot to highlight others
You notice how they do the fashion thing now where they show all the fits the women have. They focus on Reese, Wilson and some of the attractive feminine players.

I also think they are playing up the Angel/Clark rivalry. Imo the better rivalry will be Clark and JuJu given they play similar styles and will have the same usage rates.

That will be more like Magic/Bird. Clark/Reese is more like Steph/LeBron rivalry.

[GhostofDempsey]

I did that once to answer a question. Stop over exaggerating about that.

The post isn’t about politics. What I posted is something literally every show that had talked about Clark has mentioned when discussing her expanding the fan base in both college and pros.

You’re the one obsessed. You aren’t knowledgeable enough about the sport ( by your own admission ) to realize my point is just an observation of fact, made by many people, regardless of spectrum. It was not an attempt to delve into politics. Relax. Try having a nuanced, educated discussion.

Your point is true as I said. It alap indicates you don’t have much history following the WNBA outside of national news stories.

You and the people I mentioned in my post, do not have a history of watching women’s basketball. People like Clay Travis, Hannity , etc , never commented about the sport. Same for posters like you, outside of Griner.

Clark has expanded the fan base into that demographic, in addition to raising the profile among the groups that have watched. That wasn’t a bad thing until the politicization began. Now that aspect has subsided, it’s just about growing the game.

Where have I spun anything negatively about Clark?

The only negative has been the addition of the type of fans that bring the agenda that Clark herself has flat out rejected, saying she wants no part of their agenda.

It's not just once. You've done it on the other Clark threads as well. Going on about right wing conspiracy paranoia.

I don't need to be knowledgeable about the sport to see what's taking place. The fact that I am not a fan, and yet Clark is all over the media, should tell you something about her popularity. There's no politicization going on, however there is discrimination happening towards her. It's been reported in the media and you'd rather put a different spin on it than to call it what it is.

You aren't any different than the fans who are now tuning in to see Clark. You admit you aren't an MMA fan yet you'll watch a fight if Jon Jones is headlining. One could make the same argument against you as you are for casual fans of Clark.

[The Big Dunn]

It's not just once. You've done it on the other Clark threads as well. Going on about right wing conspiracy paranoia.

I don't need to be knowledgeable about the sport to see what's taking place. The fact that I am not a fan, and yet Clark is all over the media, should tell you something about her popularity. There's no politicization going on, however there is discrimination happening towards her. It's been reported in the media and you'd rather put a different spin on it than to call it what it is.

You aren't any different than the fans who are now tuning in to see Clark. You admit you aren't an MMA fan yet you'll watch a fight if Jon Jones is headlining. One could make the same argument against you as you are for casual fans of Clark.

Again, these are observation points discussed outside of NSB.

Knowledge helps you with context. You would be able to answer the question I asked about her treatment relative to other high profile rookies. You would realize it isn’t different. Hopefully, that will make you understand you aren’t seeing anything unique.

Yes there is politicization. You can deny it but Travis, Hannity, etc. covering the sport shows this. Clark even spoke about it.

She isn’t being discriminated against in any way. Please explain where she has been.

Those reports are from those that never followed the sport. This is where knowledge and context are important.

Like the flagrant foul she took in the Chicago game weeks back. That was similar to a foul Candace Parker took as a rookie when she was the hot new thing. High profile rookies get treated like that.

What you posted is not accurate. I posted I will watch Jones v Pereria because that will be incredible. I didn’t say I would watch Jones v anyone else.

No they couldn’t because Jones has been around for years and I have never watched MMA. Pereria has made me want to watch him fight Jones.

I agree that the fans I mentioned in my post only want to watch Clark. That is understandable as they identify with her and not with the majority of the WNBA players.

[GhostofDempsey]

Again, these are observation points discussed outside of NSB.

Knowledge helps you with context. You would be able to answer the question I asked about her treatment relative to other high profile rookies. You would realize it isn’t different. Hopefully, that will make you understand you aren’t seeing anything unique.

Yes there is politicization. You can deny it but Travis, Hannity, etc. covering the sport shows this. Clark even spoke about it.

She isn’t being discriminated against in any way. Please explain where she has been.

Those reports are from those that never followed the sport. This is where knowledge and context are important.

Like the flagrant foul she took in the Chicago game weeks back. That was similar to a foul Candace Parker took as a rookie when she was the hot new thing. High profile rookies get treated like that.

What you posted is not accurate. I posted I will watch Jones v Pereria because that will be incredible. I didn’t say I would watch Jones v anyone else.

No they couldn’t because Jones has been around for years and I have never watched MMA. Pereria has made me want to watch him fight Jones.

I agree that the fans I mentioned in my post only want to watch Clark. That is understandable as they identify with her and not with the majority of the WNBA players.

People who do follow the sport and the league beg to differ. They insist she is being treated differently from other rookies. She is a straight white woman in a league that is 90% black lesbians.

You keep clinging to Hannity as if he is the only one making these observations. Sports reporters of all races are calling this one for what it is. You'll have to do better with your feeble deflection and excuses.

These fans identify with her for her talent. Same way Jordan and Lebron were able to pack arenas across the nation, they are coming to games to see her play.

[Mike D]

Question: Is it racist to root for Caitlin Clark because she's white?

I've seen that discussed a lot during all of this on other platforms. That if you're only interested in the WNBA because of Clark, it's racist. Personally, I find that absurd.

Every race roots for their own. Are you telling me that black folks didn't jump on Tiger's bandwagon when he waltzed in and took over an all-white sport? I would've done the same if I were black. When Pacquiao started his run, the vast majority of Asians (Pinoy or otherwise) rooted for Pacquiao because he was Asian.

If you were at a bar during the Tank Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz fight (or Barrios, etc.), who are the Mexicans in the bar going to be rooting for? And who are the black folks at the bar going to be rooting for? It's pretty obvious.

When Clark plays Reese, the majority of white people will be rooting for Clark. And the majority of black people will be rooting for Reese. It's just the way it is. If rooting for someone in sports who you identify with more culturally is racist, then I'm afraid damn near everyone is racist.

[The Big Dunn]

People who do follow the sport and the league beg to differ. They insist she is being treated differently from other rookies. She is a straight white woman in a league that is 90% black lesbians.

You keep clinging to Hannity as if he is the only one making these observations. Sports reporters of all races are calling this one for what it is. You'll have to do better with your feeble deflection and excuses.

These fans identify with her for her talent. Same way Jordan and Lebron were able to pack arenas across the nation, they are coming to games to see her play.

Which people are these?

She is being treated differently than non high profile rookies. Not other high profile. Not Reese got flagrantly fouled as well.

The reason you should know this claim lacks merit is because the league isn’t 90% black lesbians. That is a ridiculous stereotype.

I mentioned Travis as well. Again, which reporters are these? Travis? Whitlock? Barstool?

Yes many do. Not the new fans. There have been plenty of talented players but not one like Clark that they identify with. Saying they identify with her doesn’t in any way lessen Clark’s talent.

Jordan and LeBron came after Magic and Bird.

As you know, before Magic and Bird got drafted, the NBA had the same difficulty connecting with the new group of fans Clark brings. Bird definitely brought those fans back.

[The Big Dunn]

Question: Is it racist to root for Caitlin Clark because she's white?

I've seen that discussed a lot during all of this on other platforms. That if you're only interested in the WNBA because of Clark, it's racist. Personally, I find that absurd.

Every race roots for their own. Are you telling me that black folks didn't jump on Tiger's bandwagon when he waltzed in and took over an all-white sport? I would've done the same if I were black. When Pacquiao started his run, the vast majority of Asians (Pinoy or otherwise) rooted for Pacquiao because he was Asian.

If you were at a bar during the Tank Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz fight (or Barrios, etc.), who are the Mexicans in the bar going to be rooting for? And who are the black folks at the bar going to be rooting for? It's pretty obvious.

When Clark plays Reese, the majority of white people will be rooting for Clark. And the majority of black people will be rooting for Reese. It's just the way it is. If rooting for someone in sports who you identify with more culturally is racist, then I'm afraid damn near everyone is racist.

No it isn’t. Clark attracts a diverse group. It isn’t an issue that some white people watch because they identify with her. As you said identifying with an athlete draws fans from every race and culture.

What can’t be ignored is the agenda based people that are part of the new fans she brought. They only care about race, not the sport.

To her credit she said she wants no part of them or their agenda.

[travestyny]

Question: Is it racist to root for Caitlin Clark because she's white?

I've seen that discussed a lot during all of this on other platforms. That if you're only interested in the WNBA because of Clark, it's racist. Personally, I find that absurd.

Every race roots for their own. Are you telling me that black folks didn't jump on Tiger's bandwagon when he waltzed in and took over an all-white sport? I would've done the same if I were black. When Pacquiao started his run, the vast majority of Asians (Pinoy or otherwise) rooted for Pacquiao because he was Asian.

If you were at a bar during the Tank Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz fight (or Barrios, etc.), who are the Mexicans in the bar going to be rooting for? And who are the black folks at the bar going to be rooting for? It's pretty obvious.

When Clark plays Reese, the majority of white people will be rooting for Clark. And the majority of black people will be rooting for Reese. It's just the way it is. If rooting for someone in sports who you identify with more culturally is racist, then I'm afraid damn near everyone is racist.

The issue is not people rooting for her in part because she's White (I say in part because I'm assuming it's also because she's an excellent basketball player). The issue revolves around people using her basically to claim victimhood for straight White people or to claim Black people are largely racist against her, as ShoulderRoll tried and failed to prove.

[GhostofDempsey]

Which people are these?

She is being treated differently than non high profile rookies. Not other high profile. Not Reese got flagrantly fouled as well.

The reason you should know this claim lacks merit is because the league isn’t 90% black lesbians. That is a ridiculous stereotype.

I mentioned Travis as well. Again, which reporters are these? Travis? Whitlock? Barstool?

Yes many do. Not the new fans. There have been plenty of talented players but not one like Clark that they identify with. Saying they identify with her doesn’t in any way lessen Clark’s talent.

Jordan and LeBron came after Magic and Bird.

As you know, before Magic and Bird got drafted, the NBA had the same difficulty connecting with the new group of fans Clark brings. Bird definitely brought those fans back.

You have posted more than anyone else on this thread and the other Clark threads. You wouldn't be deflecting so hard if you didn't have an agenda. We all know what that is and what it is rooted in.

[GhostofDempsey]

Question: Is it racist to root for Caitlin Clark because she's white?

I've seen that discussed a lot during all of this on other platforms. That if you're only interested in the WNBA because of Clark, it's racist. Personally, I find that absurd.

Every race roots for their own. Are you telling me that black folks didn't jump on Tiger's bandwagon when he waltzed in and took over an all-white sport? I would've done the same if I were black. When Pacquiao started his run, the vast majority of Asians (Pinoy or otherwise) rooted for Pacquiao because he was Asian.

If you were at a bar during the Tank Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz fight (or Barrios, etc.), who are the Mexicans in the bar going to be rooting for? And who are the black folks at the bar going to be rooting for? It's pretty obvious.

When Clark plays Reese, the majority of white people will be rooting for Clark. And the majority of black people will be rooting for Reese. It's just the way it is. If rooting for someone in sports who you identify with more culturally is racist, then I'm afraid damn near everyone is racist.

World Cup Soccer is built upon ethnic pride and rooting for one's own ethnicity. Same with the Olympics. What I find strange is that we have/had posters here who would bash America on threads and support flag burners, yet insist that American fans must root for black American fighters fighting white foreign ones. Suddenly they became patriotic when there was a racial component to the fight.