Russia, Ukraine, my 2

[Marchegiano]

I'll make it quick.

I reckon everything I see on news is BS, this has little to do with NATO and CSTA or defense or the ability to defend.

All about that oil.

Ukraine's conflict zones are newly found oil fields. Y'all debate some dumb ****, follow the money, it is the truth.

[GrandpaBernard]

Crimea 2.0?

where ***** end goal is to acquire these valuable plots of land

Ukraine could have became a major oil exporter and competitor to Russia

[jaded]

IDK...Russian oil reserves 80,000,000,000 vs Ukraine's 395,000,000 barrels...0.49375% increase doesn't seem worth fighting over.

[Marchegiano]

IDK...Russian oil reserves 80,000,000,000 vs Ukraine's 395,000,000 barrels...0.49375% increase doesn't seem worth fighting over.

You don't have barrels of oil from un tapped sources bub. Think about what you just said.

[jaded]

You don't have barrels of oil from un tapped sources bub. Think about what you just said.

So then what are they supposed to be fighting over, do you have any estimates because I couldn't find any news about these untapped oil fields?

[Marchegiano]

So then what are they supposed to be fighting over, do you have any estimates because I couldn't find any news about these untapped oil fields?

Sure, bud, try looking into big oil investing into Ukraine prior to this, why, and what happened to the deals they had made.

If you want me to find articles and videos for you that's fine, but, I'm not a political guy actually and I can't hardly tell what yer lean is. If you like news in ********** flavor I'll source them, if you're more into a ******** flavor of news I'll deliver those links. It's not the opinion around the news I care about or am speaking to so it makes little difference to me which type to bring into this except for the fact that when you source CNN or Fox at the wrong guy they assume you're of the otherside and I'm not. I'd rather source the info from a source you respect straight away and skip the whole my side vs your side bull.

[billeau2]

IDK...Russian oil reserves 80,000,000,000 vs Ukraine's 395,000,000 barrels...0.49375% increase doesn't seem worth fighting over.

Assuming your right... Whether oil is untaped, sourced, etc...makes little difference. I wold wager that many ethical people would not try to fight for oil and risk what is happening now. But the people involved are not ethical. They don't care what it takes... They want NATO protection to acquire resources and have deals with people in our government. Thats the rub here.

[Marchegiano]

I reckon I found a neutral source. I want to be very clear though, if this guy has a political alignment I did not notice it. In this video the info seems pretty straight but he does offer his opinion quite a bit. It's pretty hard to find any politically neutral and opinionless news these days. I was pretty gob smacked when I tried.

I guess what I'll have to do to show a neutral and fact based information resource is ****ing make one myself and make sure to source each fact with at least one source from each party or at least political alignment. Gimme a while and I'll bring some detail to this ****s...and defeat the entire purpose of having a just short opening post

[Comanche]

Assuming your right... Whether oil is untaped, sourced, etc...makes little difference. I wold wager that many ethical people would not try to fight for oil and risk what is happening now. But the people involved are not ethical. They don't care what it takes... They want NATO protection to acquire resources and have deals with people in our government. Thats the rub here.

Im not sure I follow what you mean here. If said resources are within their clearly defined borders, they dont/shouldn't need NATO support to exploit them. Its theirs, period. Plus we are talking about a resource ***** already has in abundance. Would he risk angering the whole West for a couple more dollars? ***** is losing allies by the day.

[GrandpaBernard]

I reckon I found a neutral source. I want to be very clear though, if this guy has a political alignment I did not notice it. In this video the info seems pretty straight but he does offer his opinion quite a bit. It's pretty hard to find any politically neutral and opinionless news these days. I was pretty gob smacked when I tried.

I guess what I'll have to do to show a neutral and fact based information resource is ****ing make one myself and make sure to source each fact with at least one source from each party or at least political alignment. Gimme a while and I'll bring some detail to this ****s...and defeat the entire purpose of having a just short opening post

This is the video I watched and found most informative

he been doing these kind of geopolitical videos for years on all parts of the world

if he has any bias, they’re unlikely to be extreme fanboyism

good luck getting these clowns to focus for 30 minutes and learn

instead of listening to an academic who done tons of research

they rather listen to news reporter twats who cover everything and are experts at nothing