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    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post

    How is this any different from a covid death, anytime someone gets shot and the person has covid they count it as a covid death
    That's been debunked for so long.

    Covid has to be mentioned as a contributing factor on a death certificate to count.
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      Originally posted by TonyGe View Post







      Covid deaths are most likely under reported and the numbers are sugnificant. It's having a huge impact on the costs incurred every year for medical care. This virus has been shown to mutate readily which makes it hard to control and potentially much more lethal than it is in it's latest mutation. That is what base the doctors and health experts extremely worried.
      Oh now they're under reported? Lol they were counting people that died in car crashes and people that got shot. But now they're under reported? You guys are really something else. I've never seen such a fearful bunch of people clinging onto a vaccine that doesn't work and that the goal posts have been moved so many times its hard to keep up with. To top it off you guys move the goal posts for big pharma! "Oh well if you get covid it's not as bad" you keep believing the crap they tell you. It's not like they've been wrong over and over again.

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        I'm going to take a break for a while. You shills win. I provide MSN CBS CNN WHO Pfizer CDC gateway links and no matter what you guys call them all fake.

        I've posted these documents and even of you don't believe that there was 160k a reasonable person would realize that even if you add half of these numbers from the first 2 1/2 months is it ok? Or do you all think every adverse reaction is fake?

        The facts are Pfizer was concerned enough to hire extra staff because the sides effects were so great they had to review them. They did and these are the number Pfizer came up with. I'm sure Pfizer is also wrong lol.

        Let's also not forget that they don't count adverse effects if it's not 2 weeks after your shot. But I'm sure no one had any issues during the first two weeks lol.

        You guys view it as you will. I can no longer handle the people that will no matter what defend this BS. Shills, have fun. Keep your head in the sand.
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            Originally posted by man down View Post

            Now you're full of chit, again. Pfizer actually hired people to review these cases as it was the first roll out.

            You keep trying to discredit VAERS and this has nothing to do with VAERS. But push your shill BS. Matter of fact let's do thr match shall we. The VAERS reporting system has how many reports now?

            In the first two and a half months when every person had great hope for this Vax and zero agenda they were reporting to Pfizer and the FDA. The report even says the FDA. So we know these cases are legit. Now times 160k adverse effects with the 11 months we've be keeping track on VAERS. Now what's the cases to date and what does the 160k from the first roll out equal?

            You're nothing but a shill and the FDA used this first report to approve the Vax for EUA so obviously they seemed ok with it. But you call it fake. YOU also know for a fact you have to use your docs name the doctor you see to report adverse effects on VAERS so it's not like you can just BS a report.

            To add, let's say there's half that number, do you still think it's safe? Yup you will because you'll just make some BS up to fit your agenda. Like every single case is made up lol.

            Either way this attorney will shed more and more light on Pfizers own docs from here on out. Time is on my side and you will be wrong because you're already wrong and you can't even admit it with Pfizer documented cases. Stop spreading misinformation.
            Stop man, just stop. You literally betray more and more ignorance about how these systems work with every word you type. You do comprehend that all these mass adverse event reporting sytems work about the same way doncha? And that just because someone reports feeling sick or has something go wrong in the weeks or months folowing vaccination it doesn't mean the vaccine caused it? That requires follow up research which is precisely why Pfizer hired extra staff to analyse the mass of data they received from VAERS.

            And yeah, you really thought I didn't already crunch the numbers before I even posted? Whilst the the total number of adverse reports is somewhat higher on a per month basis over 12 months than it was over the initial 2.5 months that is only to be expected since more people became aware of the systems over time and because of course the speed of rollout accelerated peaking around April and of course that by definition adverse event reporting lags behind rollout.

            so in 2.5 months about 160,000 total reports and or about 64000 a month and in 12 months 913000 or about 76000 a month... looks realtively consistent to me... what you think genius? And incidentally the majority of those reports were for minor instances of muscle aches or soreness or other minor events which had already been recovered from by the time of reporting.

            Just give it up, man, You're flat wrong on this but there's still good discussions to be had, including the revelations out of court you're so keen to hear... and FWIW I believe that all documentation should be transparent and publicly available although what's going on right now is actually legal maneuvering. A 'fishing expedition' I think they call it... a deliberately overbroad request for information that they're hoping will turn up actionable material - but in this case one that cannot be practically met on a reasonable timescale... although of course major businesses and governemental organisations also deliberately use voluminous documentation as tactic of their own to foil such FOI requests (go watch Dark Waters for a good example of Dupont using exactly that strategy) so it'll be interesting to see which way the judge jumps on this one. Either way the plaintiffs are already making political mileage out of suggesting the FDA are being obstructively uncompliant which I suspect was as much the point as the fishing. Like high level chess, man.

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              Sounds like the name of a super villain from Transformers.

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                Originally posted by man down View Post
                I'm going to take a break for a while. You shills win. I provide MSN CBS CNN WHO Pfizer CDC gateway links and no matter what you guys call them all fake.

                I've posted these documents and even of you don't believe that there was 160k a reasonable person would realize that even if you add half of these numbers from the first 2 1/2 months is it ok? Or do you all think every adverse reaction is fake?

                The facts are Pfizer was concerned enough to hire extra staff because the sides effects were so great they had to review them. They did and these are the number Pfizer came up with. I'm sure Pfizer is also wrong lol.

                Let's also not forget that they don't count adverse effects if it's not 2 weeks after your shot. But I'm sure no one had any issues during the first two weeks lol.

                You guys view it as you will. I can no longer handle the people that will no matter what defend this BS. Shills, have fun. Keep your head in the sand.
                yeah ive said all i needed to say now too. on a final note, if koba, kris silver, barrett or the guy with the flame picture are reading, you can take your masks, take your boosters, take your scaremongering and shove it up your ****ing arse!!!!

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                  Originally posted by man down View Post

                  Oh now they're under reported? Lol they were counting people that died in car crashes and people that got shot. But now they're under reported? You guys are really something else. I've never seen such a fearful bunch of people clinging onto a vaccine that doesn't work and that the goal posts have been moved so many times its hard to keep up with. To top it off you guys move the goal posts for big pharma! "Oh well if you get covid it's not as bad" you keep believing the crap they tell you. It's not like they've been wrong over and over again.

                  I'm talking about global reporting but there is some evidence that there is under reporting in North America also but not to the same extent. For example the excess death rate in countries that record this are up significantly over their average since Covid was detected. Those deaths are more than can be explained simply due to Covid.

                  World stats


                  For example Russia has 700k excess deaths above and beyond what was attributed to Covid.

                  This was published in May and indicated the US is also under reporting deaths.



                  And no they haven't been wrong over and over again. They have been wrong on some points but the main message of getting vaccinated, practising social distancing and wearing masks when necessary has been completely accurate in reducing the body count. They have been accurate that variants are the biggest challenge in containing the virus which has been said from the beginning of the pandemic.

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                    Originally posted by man down View Post
                    I'm going to take a break for a while...
                    what is this, the 50th time you've announced this

                    The way all your threads play out

                    1. You post lies/information you've misunderstood
                    2. You get factually corrected by multiple people
                    3. You become emotional and rant more lies, spam the thread with tiktok videos
                    4. You get owned even worse
                    5. Out of options and arguments and looking ******, you announce you're leaving
                    6. Minutes later you pop up in a different thread repeating all the same lies again and the whole process repeats

                    You have been doing this to the forum for almost 2 years now
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                      Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post

                      yeah ive said all i needed to say now too. on a final note, if koba, kris silver, barrett or the guy with the flame picture are reading, you can take your masks, take your boosters, take your scaremongering and shove it up your ****ing arse!!!!
                      Like man down you write your little leaving note but you'll be back with more propaganda for us very soon. Looking forward to your next posts about "the Bible predicted all this corona stuff, the vaccinated are the anti-Christ, it was a plan to get rid of *****, NWO taking over, the vaccine secretly poisons you, this is identical to what the ****s did" in 2 days time.

                      Kinda disappointed you didn't mention me as I have an even lower opinion of you than those guys do. Pathetic that you can't even act like a British ******, you go full fat Yank in your posting style and claims. Where's your patriotism? We have plenty of proud British ******ity for you to get involved with, but instead you're a cheerleader for a guy who thinks is a reliable source.
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