Any of you find outer space extremely weird and surreal?

[billeau2]

I believe most scientists think there are thousands of "earth" planets out there, some that we believe to have found through telescopes - but impossible for us to travel to - at least any time soon.

Until we get out of the age of combustion we are doomed... we had the age of mechanical energy... gears, factories... Then we did combustion... make an explosion and ler the explosion move the pistons that make the engine turn the wheels through some drive shaft... this is PRIMITIVE! I can intuit that there is a way to use the forces to close distance... like using gravity to warp space so we can get across a great physical chasm. Until we get to that age, we are stuck.

Robert Lazar, one of the more credible whistle blowers regarding alien phenomena told us that the engine he observed on a space craft had no moving parts... just a reactor that produced something that warped space or as Einstein calls it "time space." So, to sum it up... Now? to make the pencil go across the paper (if it were a vehicle travelling... we drive the pencil the distance between the two points. When we civilize? we would fold the paper into smaller folds and let the folds carry the pencil across.

[-Kev-]

Until we get out of the age of combustion we are doomed... we had the age of mechanical energy... gears, factories... Then we did combustion... make an explosion and ler the explosion move the pistons that make the engine turn the wheels through some drive shaft... this is PRIMITIVE! I can intuit that there is a way to use the forces to close distance... like using gravity to warp space so we can get across a great physical chasm. Until we get to that age, we are stuck.

Robert Lazar, one of the more credible whistle blowers regarding alien phenomena told us that the engine he observed on a space craft had no moving parts... just a reactor that produced something that warped space or as Einstein calls it "time space." So, to sum it up... Now? to make the pencil go across the paper (if it were a vehicle travelling... we drive the pencil the distance between the two points. When we civilize? we would fold the paper into smaller folds and let the folds carry the pencil across.

I am not going to make believe that I know for a fact that Robert Lazar was just a hoaxster. Idk, I will just say what I have been told by the one person I know who worked in Area 51.

I had the pleasure of talking to my wife’s grandfather when I went out to CA to visit her family. Her grandfather was an engineer for the US Air Force. This guy is like 80 something years old or 90 something, I forgot. He had top secret clearance. He can walk around a museum of US Air Force and show you jets he helped build or fix and tell you all about how they were made. And his knowledge is verifiable by the staff. He is a real smart dude when it comes to that stuff. I mean I would expect no less from an engineer.

Without getting too deep into what he told me, all I will say is that he did say they in fact did crazy, nasty ass experiments there, but on animals. Not aliens. He said that there was no such thing as alien experiments or alien spacecrafts in there. He said he absolutely had access to any aircraft in there, as he was an aerospace and mechanical engineer. Any alien spacecraft would have had to go through him and his team, as he claimed to be the top guy there. There was never a such thing as aliens or aircrafts that were not built by men, according to him.

Another thing to think about: just from my observations and reading, civilians think the federal government, including the DoD with all of its military branches, is this well-oiled machine who can keep big secrets. Like the feds are ran by some all-knowing, all-powerful deity. In reality, the federal gov consists of just normal groups of people who, like you or me, would unlikely be able to keep their mouth shut on anything big.

You should know how big mouthed they are when they could not even keep secret, something as big as a planned attack on a US airplane/troops/Cuban refugees, to blame Cuba for taking out the airplane and having an excuse to go to war against them as the US hates communists. Operation Northwoods, I am sure you know about it. Basically a staged attack, to really kill US Citizens/Troops, to provoke a war with Cuba. This staged attack proposal is public record. It was being coordinated by the DoD, CIA, and JCS. I repeat, part of the plan included not only killing US civilians and Cuban refugees and making it look like it was Cuba that ordered the hit, but the proposal also called for killing US Troops. That’s pretty evil. I mean overly evil. Like something out of a movie script of a fictional evil villain.

If something on that scale was leaked and verified by multiple people, something as big as aliens being captured and their spacecrafts being confiscated, would not last even 24 hours in secrecy. The pentagon was even completely honest in releasing that footage of the Navy pilots seeing “UFO’s”, saying that they do not know what they were.



This even prompted the pentagon to establish a UFO sighting reporting process.

Lastly, the Pentagon is always quick to classify UFO’s as balloons or some other stuff. They could have easily done the same to those footages. Instead they were brutally honest and confirmed the videos are real and that the objects were unidentifiable, and still are unidentified today.

[markusmod]

I am not going to make believe that I know for a fact that Robert Lazar was just a hoaxster. Idk, I will just say what I have been told by the one person I know who worked in Area 51.

I had the pleasure of talking to my wife’s grandfather when I went out to CA to visit her family. Her grandfather was an engineer for the US Air Force. This guy is like 80 something years old or 90 something, I forgot. He had top secret clearance. He can walk around a museum of US Air Force and show you jets he helped build or fix and tell you all about how they were made. And his knowledge is verifiable by the staff. He is a real smart dude when it comes to that stuff. I mean I would expect no less from an engineer.

Without getting too deep into what he told me, all I will say is that he did say they in fact did crazy, nasty ass experiments there, but on animals. Not aliens. He said that there was no such thing as alien experiments or alien spacecrafts in there. He said he absolutely had access to any aircraft in there, as he was an aerospace and mechanical engineer. Any alien spacecraft would have had to go through him and his team, as he claimed to be the top guy there. There was never a such thing as aliens or aircrafts that were not built by men, according to him.

Another thing to think about: just from my observations and reading, civilians think the federal government, including the DoD with all of its military branches, is this well-oiled machine who can keep big secrets. Like the feds are ran by some all-knowing, all-powerful deity. In reality, the federal gov consists of just normal groups of people who, like you or me, would unlikely be able to keep their mouth shut on anything big.

You should know how big mouthed they are when they could not even keep secret, something as big as a planned attack on a US airplane/troops/Cuban refugees, to blame Cuba for taking out the airplane and having an excuse to go to war against them as the US hates communists. Operation Northwoods, I am sure you know about it. Basically a staged attack, to really kill US Citizens/Troops, to provoke a war with Cuba. This staged attack proposal is public record. It was being coordinated by the DoD, CIA, and JCS. I repeat, part of the plan included not only killing US civilians and Cuban refugees and making it look like it was Cuba that ordered the hit, but the proposal also called for killing US Troops. That’s pretty evil. I mean overly evil. Like something out of a movie script of a fictional evil villain.

If something on that scale was leaked and verified by multiple people, something as big as aliens being captured and their spacecrafts being confiscated, would not last even 24 hours in secrecy. The pentagon was even completely honest in releasing that footage of the Navy pilots seeing “UFO’s”, saying that they do not know what they were.



This even prompted the pentagon to establish a UFO sighting reporting process.

Lastly, the Pentagon is always quick to classify UFO’s as balloons or some other stuff. They could have easily done the same to those footages. Instead they were brutally honest and confirmed the videos are real and that the objects were unidentifiable, and still are unidentified today.

Id love to get some footage leaked of whats inside of Area 51

[billeau2]

I am not going to make believe that I know for a fact that Robert Lazar was just a hoaxster. Idk, I will just say what I have been told by the one person I know who worked in Area 51.

I had the pleasure of talking to my wife’s grandfather when I went out to CA to visit her family. Her grandfather was an engineer for the US Air Force. This guy is like 80 something years old or 90 something, I forgot. He had top secret clearance. He can walk around a museum of US Air Force and show you jets he helped build or fix and tell you all about how they were made. And his knowledge is verifiable by the staff. He is a real smart dude when it comes to that stuff. I mean I would expect no less from an engineer.

Without getting too deep into what he told me, all I will say is that he did say they in fact did crazy, nasty ass experiments there, but on animals. Not aliens. He said that there was no such thing as alien experiments or alien spacecrafts in there. He said he absolutely had access to any aircraft in there, as he was an aerospace and mechanical engineer. Any alien spacecraft would have had to go through him and his team, as he claimed to be the top guy there. There was never a such thing as aliens or aircrafts that were not built by men, according to him.

Another thing to think about: just from my observations and reading, civilians think the federal government, including the DoD with all of its military branches, is this well-oiled machine who can keep big secrets. Like the feds are ran by some all-knowing, all-powerful deity. In reality, the federal gov consists of just normal groups of people who, like you or me, would unlikely be able to keep their mouth shut on anything big.

You should know how big mouthed they are when they could not even keep secret, something as big as a planned attack on a US airplane/troops/Cuban refugees, to blame Cuba for taking out the airplane and having an excuse to go to war against them as the US hates communists. Operation Northwoods, I am sure you know about it. Basically a staged attack, to really kill US Citizens/Troops, to provoke a war with Cuba. This staged attack proposal is public record. It was being coordinated by the DoD, CIA, and JCS. I repeat, part of the plan included not only killing US civilians and Cuban refugees and making it look like it was Cuba that ordered the hit, but the proposal also called for killing US Troops. That’s pretty evil. I mean overly evil. Like something out of a movie script of a fictional evil villain.

If something on that scale was leaked and verified by multiple people, something as big as aliens being captured and their spacecrafts being confiscated, would not last even 24 hours in secrecy. The pentagon was even completely honest in releasing that footage of the Navy pilots seeing “UFO’s”, saying that they do not know what they were.



This even prompted the pentagon to establish a UFO sighting reporting process.

Lastly, the Pentagon is always quick to classify UFO’s as balloons or some other stuff. They could have easily done the same to those footages. Instead they were brutally honest and confirmed the videos are real and that the objects were unidentifiable, and still are unidentified today.

A lot to unpack here.

First of all. I welcome all information and insight into matters where information is limited. I am limited by what information I have at my disposal. So to me, someone like your grandfather being to confirm, or deny something is great. I have no axe to grind in pushing that Lazar is legit...

You mentioned something that makes me laugh because I had much the same thought process... still do actually, just had to change up when I saw certain things... the idea that people were basically incapable of keeping their mouths shut! LOL. Its a legitimate point for sure...

There is a connection between the Military and Aerospace companies that developed over time, probably starting from around the late 1940's, or so. many groups who have clearances that mean something were ad hoc members from places like Boeing (sp) and Military people in certain groups. Part of the reason for this is Goddard, the man who started Rocket engineering, was in Pasadena, hence we have Caltech... an academic institution devoted to high level engineering and its application to space.

The theory goes, and by all means, if you can ask your grandfather about any of this, please do... that some of these ad hic groups were privy to information about alien technologies of a sort.

The Pentagon was forced to be brutally honest lol. People, many called nuts and bolts lol fought tooth and nail for disclosure. That much I would stand by. I would also ask your grandfather about the command structure because one of the things that comes up with studing events like Rosewell, etc is how the military would have different groups working on differnt aspects of a project, and no one would know what the other groups were doing... so, the right hand can't see the left hand, so to speak. I don't know if this is true, but would love some confirmation either way...

You know why we know the Most High exists? Its simple... you may not see the artistry the deliberation in how all things work... BUT HE/SHE shows a great sense of humor: for example, I have studied issues related to clearances, special groups in the military, etc... And my older son went into Intelligence in the Army (palm slap). So he can't tell me much of....anything (another palm slap).

[billeau2]

Id love to get some footage leaked of whats inside of Area 51

Another example of how the "Most High" has a great sense of irony. I have property in a straight Northern line from the whole complex of area 51... If it wasn't for the secrecy I could drive straigh North and practically land on Groom Lake!

[markusmod]

Another example of how the "Most High" has a great sense of irony. I have property in a straight Northern line from the whole complex of area 51... If it wasn't for the secrecy I could drive straigh North and practically land on Groom Lake!

Only place where you will be shot on sight

[-Kev-]

I would love nothing more than having verifiable, hard evidence of aliens visiting Earth. That would be huge. My skepticism is not me denying that we have ever been visited. It’s more just me being realistic and weeding out the fakes.

I think that, and I have no evidence to back this claim, we have not been visited by aliens in manned spacecrafts yet. But I do 100% believe, and find it very realistic that we have been visited by some kinds of highly advanced space probes sent by another alien civilization. These space probes are unmanned and are remote controlled from a distance of several light years away, from our neighboring star systems. Just look at us and the way we learn about nearby planets and moons. We send probes out. Sending probes, robots/rovers is likely going to be the best method of deep space exploration for centuries to come.

NASA and other private multi billion dollar companies will keep refining the probes/space crafts and making them last longer, go further, take more data, have clearer visuals, have a more economical type of fuel, and even go faster. Up to the point where the technology advancements finally puts us at a point where we can probe other star systems.

It is amazing to imagine where an alien civilization needs to be technologically, to send unmanned, remote controlled spacecrafts to other star systems. Let alone little green men flying in a spacecraft, alone, for thousands of years, without dying and even if they die, have no way to continue the mission. I can’t imagine spaceships coming to Earth 1 alien at a time. If the US attacks and confiscates an alien spacecraft, it will likely have a decent amount of aliens in the ship. With the aliens in it being very important and experts of their field.

And then to top it off, I would imagine a highly advanced understanding of cryopreservation is needed. The advanced way of consuming nutrients, if these beings need to eat.

How about the technology needed to remote control the unmanned spacecraft? Or the advanced technology needed to send manned spacecrafts?

How about speed? Have they figured out how to travel at a fraction of the speed of light? Or have they found out how to safely travel at the speed of light? What type of detection technology do they have to not collide with an object while going at the speed of light?

Lastly, if this civilization has all of that, how advanced could they be? How much more 1,000s or millions or billions of years would they have on us? Are we like primitive cavemen to them?

So many things come into play when discussing aliens visiting us.

[New England]

what the **** else would space be other than weird and surreal dude? you been there before? is it going to be like living on earth? are you familiar with the technology needed to survive in space or travel the distances? the **** kind of question is this? what do you think the rest of us think about outer ****ing space ?



"any of you find space weird dog?"

"yes."

[-Kev-]

what the **** else would space be other than weird and surreal dude? you been there before? is it going to be like living on earth? are you familiar with the technology needed to survive in space or travel the distances? the **** kind of question is this? what do you think the rest of us think about outer ****ing space ?



"any of you find space weird dog?"

"yes."

Man, fat people stay pissed.

”What else would space be other than surreal”.

Why would everyone have the exact thoughts on space?

Why would a discussion like this only have a “yes” as an answer?

What education level did you get to? You know what, it doesn’t matter. You can’t ever start a paragraph or sentence with a capital letter.

Your fat ass got even more obese since the last time you posted a pic of yourself or did you manage to shed some weight finally? That sh.t gets to you mentally i’m sure. Every time I you take a leave, I think maybe you finally died from being morbidly obese. Clogged arteries are no joke.

[Butt stuff]

How about speed? Have they figured out how to travel at a fraction of the speed of light? Or have they found out how to safely travel at the speed of light? What type of detection technology do they have to not collide with an object while going at the speed of light?

I think for intergalactic travel, we’ll need to travel even faster than light (by cutting corners through space). Otherwise it’ll take too long to get anywhere without long periods of cryosleep.

Wormholes and warping space, although science fiction, are currently the only ideas of getting around that - but currently physicists think you’d need to harness the energy output of (at the very minimum) our entire sun. Side note: check out a Dyson sphere, it’s a terrifying idea and scientists actually look for evidence of them across the stars as they’d be a clear sign of intelligent life.