Anyone watching this George Floyd trial?

[TonyGe]

The definition you posted of 2nd degree manslaughter fits the situation imo. Someone can consciously do something and be ****** at the same time. He chose to do what he did, but it doesn’t necessarily mean he has a “depraved mind”.

Seriously what other state of mind would be an appropriate description. IMO it's not ******ity. Most people do things because there is a payoff for them. Just ask yourself what payoff was there for Chauvin to do what he did? What would motivate him to block out his training so he could keep on putting pressure on Floyd's neck?? IMO he enjoyed the rush he felt by being in control. Nothing was going to get in the way of it. Not his training, the protests of the crowd, the other officers, Floyd ceasing to breath even the arrival of the paramedics didn't stop his unrelenting pressure on Floyd's neck. Yeah he had a depraved mind. The man is nuts to put it simply. He needs to be locked up for the rest of his life.

[siablo14]

Actually I seen enough of the trial to see that Floyd's death could very well be due to a combination of factors and not singly the pressure of Chauvin's knee. My personal viewpoint is Chauvin contributed to Floyd's death but there were other factors involved (especially the drugs in Floyd's system) that give reasonable doubt as to Chauvin's absolute guilt. If the Jury doesn't see it my way and finds Chauvin guilty then that is fine with me. In the end it is their opinion that matters, not mine or yours'.

This poster is a damn joke.

[travestyny]

The definition you posted of 2nd degree manslaughter fits the situation imo. Someone can consciously do something and be ****** at the same time. He chose to do what he did, but it doesn’t necessarily mean he has a “depraved mind”.

Ok. So you are officially on record saying that a police officer kneeling on a man's neck who has no pulse does not qualify as a depraved mind. He's just too ****** to know how dangerous that is

Even though the definition for deadly force, which you agreed to, shows that he would be conscious of his actions being dangerous, but you didn't mention that for some reason.


Give me a break. You can come clean about wanting this guy to get off on an easier charge because of your *** resentment any day now. Keep it real.

[OldTerry]

My bad. I'm not trying to be like a "bulldog." I'm just sincerely trying to understand why anyone wouldn't see this as murder.

Let me ask you one more question (that of course you don't have to answer if you don't want). Do you believe that Chauvin having his knee on Floyd's neck even after he was told Floyd had no pulse displays a "depraved mind"?

The question is with all the commotion going on did the "no pulse" comment even register with Chauvin? If it did then there is something definitely depraved about him. If he was simply very rattled then it happened because of that. There are only two beings (en****** didn't work) that know the truth, one is Chauvin and the other is God. We aren't either one.

[OldTerry]

He used unreasonable force which is assault, at the very minimum it's manslaughter.

I could go with a lesser degree of manslaughter.

[joseph5620]

Ok. So you are officially on record saying that a police officer kneeling on a man's neck who has no pulse does not qualify as a depraved mind. He's just too ****** to know how dangerous that is

Even though the definition for deadly force, which you agreed to, shows that he would be conscious of his actions being dangerous, but you didn't mention that for some reason.


Give me a break. You can come clean about wanting this guy to get off on an easier charge because of your *** resentment any day now. Keep it real.

Oh man. I laughed out loud on that one.

[travestyny]

The question is with all the commotion going on did the "no pulse" comment even register with Chauvin? If it did then there is something definitely depraved about him. If he was simply very rattled then it happened because of that. There are only two beings (en****** didn't work) that know the truth, one is Chauvin and the other is God. We aren't either one.

I was asking as if you were a juror. Look at the dialogue. The cops were discussing whether he had a pulse.

Male 3 : Check his pulse. Check his Pulse. Check his pulse. Check his pulse .

Thomas Lane: You got one?

J. Alexander Kueng: I can't find one.

Derek Chauvin: Huh?

Male 3: Check his pulse.

J.Alexander Kueng: I thought I'd check him for a pulse.

So you're saying he just tuned out the conversation, even after he asked for clarification? Come on, man. He was too rattled to get off of the guy's neck?


Let's just leave the convo there. I don't want to be accused of being a bulldog or whatever, but I just don't understand your reluctance to call this what it was.

[travestyny]

Oh man. I laughed out loud on that one.

I mean, how much longer are we meant to insult our own intelligence and pretend that these guys are going about this in an unbiased way when they pull out such silly defenses for the cop? Suddenly the guy is an eight year old ret@rd that should be coddled and is just misunderstood. Give me a break.

[Robbie Barrett]

Damn this use of force expert for the defence is getting totally torn apart and embarrassed. He said putting and keeping Floyd in the prone position with the cops on him wasn't a use of force, under the prosecutions questioning he conceded it was. So the defence have a use of force expert that can't recognise use of force, all credibility lost.

[travestyny]

Damn this use of force expert for the defence is getting totally torn apart and embarrassed. He said putting and keeping Floyd in the prone position with the cops on him wasn't a use of force, under the prosecutions questioning he conceded it was. So the defence have a use of force expert that can't recognise use of force, all credibility lost.

I kept saying over and over right before the prosecutors got to him......"They are about to roast your ass." It was easy to see it coming.