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    #21
    South Central Baghdad

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      #22
      Any major citie in Russia should be honorable mentions.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Left2body View Post
        Dude, I'm not saying it isn't bad but you see horrendous **** that you would think didn't happen anywhere in the world. I'm talking distended stomach's, bare bare minimum clothing. Mind you this is just in passing on vehicles.

        Mind you I have never been to a Flavela but even from the basic clothing, shelter and nutritional standpoint what I saw of Africa appeared much worse.
        That's poverty. It ain't rough in terms of crime and violence compared to Flavelas unless of course you're talking about war. Urban decay is probably the worst in Brazil. When I mean rough I mean which is the worst ******. Starving farmers and kids with no clothes on their ass can probably be found in Asia and S America all over place.

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          #24
          Originally posted by JulioCesaChavez View Post
          That's poverty. It ain't rough in terms of crime and violence compared to Flavelas unless of course you're talking about war. Urban decay is probably the worst in Brazil. When I mean rough I mean which is the worst ******. Starving farmers and kids with no clothes on their ass can probably be found in Asia and S America all over place.
          Yeah, I was actually interpreting the thread differently which is probably the wrong interpretation for this thread. I guess by toughest thread starter meant violent.

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            #26
            Originally posted by Left2body View Post
            There are places in the world that make US and Brazilian Flavelas look like Hiltons. I traveled to Business in Africa you would see some crazy crazy **** just in transit from Airport to Hotel and meetings.

            Went to Jamaica as a tourist and the none touristy part is crazy too. People washing clothes in stream and some poor **** but not as bad as I saw in Africa.
            brazil is pretty bad, also johannesburg ( south africa ). i work for a charity oraganization and we go to africa, these wannabe gangsters from compton and brooklyn/ queenz would last 10 seconds with the real african gangsters. i remember an unlucky tourist wandring into the rough part of jo-berg and within minutes the poor f.ucker was naked - he'd been robbed of everything he had, even his undies

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              #27
              Council Estates (UK) - Heroin, AIDS and tea with crumpets

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                #28
                Originally posted by capt_sam View Post

                Watched Ross Kemp on Gangs, and some of those places in Belize City must rank up the top.
                That's a good series, from what I've seen (Belize, St. Louis, Rio)

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                  #29
                  Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out View Post
                  Any major citie in Russia should be honorable mentions.
                  ****, yeah, i forgot about this. in russia people disappear and their organs get sold on the black market. also, if, you or i, a tourist went alone into russia, not only would our organs get sold but some russian would sell our passport to another russian for whatever rubles he could get for it... ever seen eastern promises? the real russian mob is much worse than anything on screen

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                    #30


                    The List: Murder Capitals of the World

                    Reliable global crime statistics are hard to come by, but here are five cities that stand in a class all their own when it comes to brutal, homicidal violence.

                    Caracas, Venezuela

                    Population: 3.2 million

                    Murder rate: 130 per 100,000 residents (official)

                    What’s happening: The capital of Chávez country, Caracas has become far more dangerous in recent years than any South American city, even beating out the once notorious Bogotá. What’s worse, the city’s official homicide statistics likely fall short of the mark because they omit prison-related murders as well as deaths that the state never gets around to properly “categorizing.” The numbers also don’t count those who died while “resisting arrest,” suggesting that Caracas’s cops—already known for their brutality against student protesters—might be cooking the books. Many have pointed the finger at El Presidente, whose government has failed to tackle the country’s rising rates of violent crime. In fact, since Chávez took over in 1998, Venezuela’s official homicide rate has climbed 67 percent—mostly due to increased drug and gang violence. Ramón Rodríguez Chacín, who recently resigned as interior minister, claimed in July that homicide has dropped 27 percent since January—but experts say he’s just playing with numbers. As for Caracas, some speculate that its murder rate is closer to 160 per 100,000.


                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Population: 3.5 million

                    Murder rate: 62 per 100,000 inhabitants

                    What’s happening: A European bastion in the heart of turbulent South Africa, picturesque Cape Town nonetheless has the country’s highest murder rate. The city’s homicides usually take place in suburban townships rather than in the more upscale urban areas where tourists visit. According to the South African Police Service, most of the Cape Town area’s violent crimes happen between people who know one another, including a horrific case last year in which four males doused a female friend in gasoline and lit her on fire. Occurring just outside city limits, the incident apparently happened after the assailants had taken hard drugs, the use of which has risen along with Cape Town’s violent crime rate. The whopping 12.7 percent rise in the city’s murder rate from 2006 to 2007 certainly has local politicians worried, especially as South Africa prepares to host the 2010 World Cup. The government has hired more police officers to prepare for the tournament, which could help cut crime in soccer-fan hot spots. But until better efforts are made to police Cape Town’s poverty-stricken townships, it’s unlikely that the murder rate—an average of 5.9 per day—will see any major drop.


                    New Orleans, United States

                    Population: 220,614 to 312,000 (2007); estimates vary due to displacement of people after Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

                    Murder rate: Estimates range from 67 (New Orleans Police Department) to 95 (Federal Bureau of Investigation) per 100,000

                    What’s happening: With its grinding poverty, an inadequate school system, a prevalence of public housing, and a high incarceration rate, the Big Easy has long been plagued with a high rate of violent crime. Katrina didn’t help. Since the hurricane struck in 2005, drug dealers have been fighting over a smaller group of users, leading to many killings. On just one four-block stretch of Josephine Street, in the city center, four people were murdered in 2007 and 15 people shot, including a double homicide on Christmas day. A precise murder rate is hard to pinpoint because the population is swelling quickly, approaching its pre-Katrina numbers. Whether you use New Orleans’s own figures or the FBI’s, however, the city remains the most deadly in the United States, easily surpassing Detroit and Baltimore with 46 and 45 murders per 100,000 people, respectively.


                    Moscow, Russia

                    Population: 10.4 million

                    Murder rate: 9.6 per 100,000 (estimate)

                    What’s happening: Moscow’s murder rate is nothing compared with that of Caracas or Cape Town, but the city still ranks way above other major European capitals. London, Paris, Rome, and Madrid, for instance, all had rates below 2 murders per 100,000 in 2006. The Russian capital’s homicide rate is down 15 percent this year from last, but the recent surge in hate crimes—including the deadly beating of a Tajik carpenter by a gang of youths on Valentine’s Day—suggests that the lull might be temporary. Sixty ethnically motivated killings have already happened this year, part of a sixfold increase in hate crimes committed in the city during 2007. Several of the murders have been attributed to ultranationalist skinhead groups like the “Spas,” who killed 11 people in a 2006 bombing of a multiethnic market in northern Moscow. The Russian government has finally stepped up to combat the problem, assisting migrant groups and cracking down on street gangs. Still, the continued rise in extremist attacks is worrisome. And along with migrants, journalists and other high-profile people in Moscow might also want to be a little wary in Russia—62 contract murders took place in the country in 2005, according to official statistics.


                    Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea

                    Population: 254,200 (2000 census)

                    Murder rate: 54 per 100,000 (2004 official figure)

                    What’s happening: The capital of island country Papua New Guinea, Port Moresby might seem like a surprising addition to this list. But its high violent crime rates, along with high levels of police corruption and gang activity, helped earn the city the dubious title of “worst city” in a 2004 Economist Intelligence Unit survey. With gangs called “raskols” controlling the city centers and unemployment rates hovering around 80 percent, it’s easy to see how Port Moresby beat out the 130 other survey contenders. Port Moresby’s police don’t seem to be helping the crime situation—last November, five officers were charged with offenses ranging from murder to ****. And in August, the city’s police barracks were put on a three-month curfew due to a recent slew of bank heists reportedly planned inside the stations by officers and their co-conspirators. Rising tensions between Chinese migrants and native Papua New Guineans are also cause for alarm, as are reports of increased activity of organized Chinese crime syndicates.

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