Why doesn't Manny cherry pick at this point?

[Roadblock]

Pac has greater wins and much more of them against greater opponents.
All Floyd has is an unbeaten record. Unbeaten records only take you so far.
Ask any unbeaten fighter in history that. Floyd is no different he isn't special

Name them, you never name them always just blanket statements that mean nothing.

Name them and we will dissect the fights and see what was real. Same for Floyd , go for it because you will get your ass handed to you as always.

[GrandpaBernard]

Name them, you never name them always just blanket statements that mean nothing.

Name them and we will dissect the fights and see what was real. Same for Floyd , go for it because you will get your ass handed to you as always.

I’m Floyd fan but let compare their best 147 wins

Floyd has:
pacquiao
Mosley
JMM
Hatton

manny has:
Cotto
Thurman
Timmeh
Clottey

[ShoulderRoll]

Jeff Horn was a cherrypick gone bad.

[GrandpaBernard]

Jeff Horn was a cherrypick gone bad.

I watched it again this week

Thought it was a 7-5 to either or draw kind of fight

manny likely didn’t take Horn seriously and took it easy in training camp

manny stopped giving a f. Didn’t flex his a-side muscle for vengeance in a rematch

[Roadblock]

I’m Floyd fan but let compare their best 147 wins

Floyd has:
pacquiao
Mosley
JMM
Hatton

manny has:
Cotto
Thurman
Timmeh
Clottey

Its already Floyds win just on names, but when you actually dissect each bout on its on face value in merit Manny falls to bits.

Lets see if Manny fans want to dissect these fights for both guys.

[Fat_asian]

All true and only the tip of the iceberg, Manny has cherry picking injured name guys whenever he gets a chance, just now look how he ran from Errol until the car accident then all of a sudden he is looking at Errol .

Ive said it all along Manny is a Huckster that has milked his popularity allowing him a green card to do anything, fight B graders, CWs, bring up little guys to higher weights and drain guys in the same division its a long road of shenanigans across Mannys career.

C'mon man, you can't credibly dismiss his whole career. I believe Mayweather goes down as the greater, fighting HALF of all his fights against greats or Titleist s (champions, exchampions, challengers) etc but you can't deny that Manny ranks up there do you?

He took us on a historic run where people kept saying " no he won't win at this time' lol. Look at the featherweight division itself, he beat the 3 kings down there, barerra, morales, jmm. That alone those guys are atg's. What he did in the lower weight classes was really special. Why else would Murad Muhammad scout him and sign him internationally from Asia? He built up a great resume once the run was over, but still hanged in there with the best after. Cotto and Mosley both verbally touted him as the best they ever faced. Mosley effed up his foot in that fight caz Manny had him backpedaling causing an enormous blister that was excruciating. Miguel was on his way to almost getting ruined jmo but his corner threw in the towel, where as Mosley s corner wouldn't.

[aboutfkntime]

What are these 3x wins?

Canelo
Pacquiao
Marquez

also...

body of work... nobody beat more champions than Mayweather

and no devastating losses

[aboutfkntime]

Pac has greater wins and much more of them against greater opponents.
All Floyd has is an unbeaten record. Unbeaten records only take you so far.
Ask any unbeaten fighter in history that. Floyd is no different he isn't special

who... ?

name one

[aboutfkntime]

I’m Floyd fan but let compare their best 147 wins

Floyd has:
pacquiao
Mosley
JMM
Hatton

manny has:
Cotto
Thurman
Timmeh
Clottey

who cares about welter ? ... the question is ... who is the better fighter, period ... how does it improve Pac's standing to remove Morales/Barrera?

Zab Judah is a better win at 147 than any of those guys you mentioned... Cotto was at the lowest point in his career, and he was weight drained... Judah was a better welter than Thurman Timmeh Clottey

Mayweather also fought that run of hot #3's right up to Maidana, Pacquiao never fought any of those guys

[GrandpaBernard]

C'mon man, you can't credibly dismiss his whole career. I believe Mayweather goes down as the greater, fighting HALF of all his fights against greats or Titleist s (champions, exchampions, challengers) etc but you can't deny that Manny ranks up there do you?

He took us on a historic run where people kept saying " no he won't win at this time' lol. Look at the featherweight division itself, he beat the 3 kings down there, barerra, morales, jmm. That alone those guys are atg's. What he did in the lower weight classes was really special. Why else would Murad Muhammad scout him and sign him internationally from Asia? He built up a great resume once the run was over, but still hanged in there with the best after. Cotto and Mosley both verbally touted him as the best they ever faced. Mosley effed up his foot in that fight caz Manny had him backpedaling causing an enormous blister that was excruciating. Miguel was on his way to almost getting ruined jmo but his corner threw in the towel, where as Mosley s corner wouldn't.

I also have Floyd ahead of manny as the greater fighter

manny has some names on his resume that Floyd doesn’t: Barrera and Morales. Floyd has Canelo who I think will go onto be greater than Morales and Barrera

But Floyd and manny share most of the biggest names on their records

Floyd usually beat the better versions of these mutual opponents

Floyd did something manny couldn’t by clearly beating Marquez

And Floyd beat manny himself which sealed the deal

manny’s recent longevity is a feat in itself

The biggest names on their records are shared between the two so I don’t see how anyone could have Floyd or manny more than 5 spots ahead of the other