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    #21
    Originally posted by emceetns View Post
    Ok so who's not a bum then?
    Its boxing, everyone is a bum except for two people:

    1) My personal favorite fighter
    2) The Champ...whose a cheat (unless he's my personal favorite)

    Its true though, there are people who are in the top 10 in their weight class who are constantly called bums by fans on here, either directly, or by calling the people who beat them bumkillers.

    Its a thin line between being great and being a bum in the eyes of boxing fans.

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      #22
      Originally posted by NaijaD View Post
      Joshua knocked down by Ruiz and Wlad = Glass chin

      Wilder knocked down by Scorniers, some fat guy (Nichols I think) and Fury = Iron chin

      Makes total sense.
      Yeah this myth of Wilder's great chin and punch recovery is ridiculous, thought it died after he spent more time on floor in last fight then standing up but obviously not.

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        #23
        Wilder is likely on to a dead end, especially if he fights Fury again (and most probably loses). I see him retiring after a second loss. Unless aj loses too and they make the bout to renew interest in themselves.

        If they ever fight, the best chance for aj would be fighting like he did vs Klitschko. If he does like he did vs ruiz (both matches) he goes ko.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
          What ****ing planet do u live on, you seriously watched his last fight and think his chins good? Everyone was saying fury couldn't stop him, wilder himself said he can't punch yet he hurt wilder over and over again. He would have been stopped in first ortiz fight if ref didn't buy him time, something they tried to do again in this fight. Reason he hasn't been stopped more is cause they've kept him away from punchers, look at his resume.
          This fight was different than his usual ones, kid. For one he applied pressure and came forward, he had the intention to knock his opponent out instead of sticking and moving. And he was much bigger and stronger than usual. Maybe one day you will know what you're looking at. Fury had his feet planted, correctly threw his weight into those shots and the impact was pretty devastating. All visual. One day you may be able to spot these things yourself.

          Fury would have knocked Joshua down atleast 3 times and the ref would have counted him out.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
            Yeah this myth of Wilder's great chin and punch recovery is ridiculous, thought it died after he spent more time on floor in last fight then standing up but obviously not.
            Fury now has to be this murderous puncher in order for them to make sense of it. Don't get me wrong I've always thought Fury at least had respectable power sort of like Floyd/Ward where he can at least get the attention of his opponents if not hurt them.

            Have you ever seen a situation where a guy came into the ring pillow fisted but left it as a huge knockout puncher?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              Stop it. Your boy is a bum. B..b...but his dress was too heavy.

              He will have 12 rounds? He got stopped by a pillow puncher ffs.

              edit: TS has put me on ignore now. Weak sauce.

              edit: edit: TS now claiming Wilder can recover well? WTF? He was stumbling around for 4 rounds against Fury. What a tard.
              So you are picking Joshua to win then? 100% certain of it?

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                #27
                Originally posted by BKM- View Post
                Wilder's chin is much better than Joshua's and more importantly he has a lot of heart and can recover well, something AJ doesn't have.

                If these two fight and both get hurt, Wilder will stay on his feet and recover. If Aj is the one hurt he will be decked and quit again.
                Wilder recovers well??? He has a good chin. Where is that evidence.

                Dude fought legit bums his whole entire career and once he fights someone who has good fundamentals, Ortiz and Fury he was getting taken to school and abused.

                Yes he stopped Ortiz but dude was 50 in there first fight and 51 in their second, and won everyone round in each fight sans the rounds he got stopped.

                Fury schooled him in there first fight and was gifted a draw, and last week he got the piss beaten out of him

                Anytime you tag wilder his legs go all Bambi on him.

                That beat down he took last weekend you just don’t easily recover from with rest. That shht is going to stay with him.
                Last edited by True-Boxing-Fan; 02-28-2020, 04:08 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BKM- View Post
                  This fight was different than his usual ones, kid. For one he applied pressure and came forward, he had the intention to knock his opponent out instead of sticking and moving. And he was much bigger and stronger than usual. Maybe one day you will know what you're looking at. Fury had his feet planted, correctly threw his weight into those shots and the impact was pretty devastating. All visual. One day you may be able to spot these things yourself.

                  Fury would have knocked Joshua down atleast 3 times and the ref would have counted him out.
                  Dont you think theres a possibility Fury walked him down like that because he realized how vulnerable Wilder actually is? I dont think its likely Fury approaches a Joshua fight the same way, he'd certainly have a harder time bullying Joshua in the clinch.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BKM- View Post
                    This fight was different than his usual ones, kid. For one he applied pressure and came forward, he had the intention to knock his opponent out instead of sticking and moving. And he was much bigger and stronger than usual. Maybe one day you will know what you're looking at. Fury had his feet planted, correctly threw his weight into those shots and the impact was pretty devastating. All visual. One day you may be able to spot these things yourself.

                    Fury would have knocked Joshua down atleast 3 times and the ref would have counted him out.
                    If u think getting dropped twice getting visibly shook by a jab and stumbling round the ring like a drunk for 4 rounds to the point that he was pulled out by his corner is proof of wilder having a great chin and recuperation then Ive got nothing else to say.

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                      #30
                      Andy landed 56 punches on AJ and dropped him four times.

                      Fury landed 82 punches on Wilder and dropped him twice.

                      AJ refused to continue. Wilder was stopped by a towel.

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