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    #71
    Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
    if wilder hadnt been knocked out by ruiz previously no it wouldnt! lol

    nice deflection attempt though

    AJ got embarrassed and then ran, fought safety first, against ruiz....whom i already described....my description of ruiz was 100 percent accurate and 0 percent flattering....
    Fury landed 84 punches vs Wilder, Joshua landed 107 vs Ruiz. Aint it funny how that gets overlooked when people talk about fighting scared.

    Also Joshua was never "knocked out", not sure how a man standing up looking at the referee and going "what are you doing?" can be unconscious.

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      #72
      Originally posted by JLC View Post
      Arum is right here on the fighting scared part. I doubt Joshua fights either guy unless it’s somewhere we he can use PEDs to gain confidence because he has to be terrified of getting knocked out again. Especially in against Deontay.

      Hope I’m wrong though.
      100%.

      AJ Scared of tiny mexican Blob that didnt train. Imagine the nightmares he be having about a proper sized heavyweight like wilder/fury.

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        #73
        Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post
        Fury landed 84 punches vs Wilder, Joshua landed 107 vs Ruiz. Aint it funny how that gets overlooked when people talk about fighting scared.

        Also Joshua was never "knocked out", not sure how a man standing up looking at the referee and going "what are you doing?" can be unconscious.
        Your right wasnt a KO, he gave up and quit.
        But they dont have an official term for that in boxing, as it doesnt happen very often.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Jkp View Post
          Your right wasnt a KO, he gave up and quit.
          But they dont have an official term for that in boxing, as it doesnt happen very often.
          Except he didnt quit. He picked himself off the canvas 4 different times and was continuing to fight the whole way through. The whole "he quit" argument comes from a very reaching interpretation of a disorientated persons body language over a course of about 3 seconds. He never indicated to the ref at any point that he wanted to quit and immediately went "WHAT?" when it was waved off.

          The amount of BS thats been constructed practically out of thin air to discredit and **** on Joshua is pretty hilarious honestly. He gets accused of lacking heart and grit when he fights an American in America while having an alleged concussion and picks himself off the canvas multiple times during the fight, then immediately rematches the same guy and wins. He gets accused of simultaneously being a big, stiff, slow bodybuilder AND somehow also being Usain Bolt running around the ring away from fighters. He gets critized for fighting scared in a fight where he landed significantly more punches than Fury did against Wilder (the same Fury who, if we apply AJ hater standards, fought Wlad "scared" compared to how AJ fought him). The inconsistency and double standards sure are amusing.

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            #75
            Joshua has fought the most top end fighters of all the active heavyweights.

            Not sure how anyone can call him scared.

            Klitschko
            Parker
            Povetkin
            Whyte
            Ruiz

            Not a bad top 5, the likes of Takam and Brezeale don’t even make the cut.

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              #76
              Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post
              Except he didnt quit. He picked himself off the canvas 4 different times and was continuing to fight the whole way through. The whole "he quit" argument comes from a very reaching interpretation of a disorientated persons body language over a course of about 3 seconds. He never indicated to the ref at any point that he wanted to quit and immediately went "WHAT?" when it was waved off.

              The amount of BS thats been constructed practically out of thin air to discredit and **** on Joshua is pretty hilarious honestly. He gets accused of lacking heart and grit when he fights an American in America while having an alleged concussion and picks himself off the canvas multiple times during the fight, then immediately rematches the same guy and wins. He gets accused of simultaneously being a big, stiff, slow bodybuilder AND somehow also being Usain Bolt running around the ring away from fighters. He gets critized for fighting scared in a fight where he landed significantly more punches than Fury did against Wilder (the same Fury who, if we apply AJ hater standards, fought Wlad "scared" compared to how AJ fought him). The inconsistency and double standards sure are amusing.
              So your saying AJ wasn't KO'd, and he didn't quit. So why did the ref call the fight off and give belts to Ruiz?

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                #77
                Originally posted by Jkp View Post
                So your saying AJ wasn't KO'd, and he didn't quit. So why did the ref call the fight off and give belts to Ruiz?
                He'd been knocked down four times and was clearly disorientated from the first knockdown onwards. Even so it was a somewhat weak stoppage. From the way people talk you'd think he was either A) completely KTFO on his back staring at the lights or B) walking out of the ring refusing to fight anymore.

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                  #78
                  Joshua was beginning to look good but the way the Hearns were speaking about him he was invincible.A lot people were believing their nonsense and when he was hammered they all said (apart from Joshua) that he wasn't himself .Joshua has it all to prove it's going to be hard for fans to forget the way he fell.Time will tell if he's elite but as it stands right now he's not.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by that g View Post
                    ...says the guy with floyd mayweather as his avatar. lol.
                    Yeah, I have Floyd as my avatar. And?

                    He never let anyone force him to fight out of character. Like Ruiz did to Joshua.

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                      #80
                      Didn’t Bob Arum always say a lot of the same things about Floyd Mayweather Jr.?

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