Comments Thread For: Parker's Manager Could See Usyk Clash For Vacant WBO Title

[LetOutTheCage]

Kind of strange that Parker gets himself out of the Chisora fight and now could potentially fight for another belt

[kafkod]

Nobody in the industry expected Hughie Fury to go into Bulgaria and get a decision. It was assumed Pulev would be the mandatory, but even if he wasn't, Hughie Fury wasn't with Hearn either. No matter how you slice it, the IBF mandatory wasn't going to be an in house fighter, so Hearn was trying to find a way for Whyte to become the WBO mandatory and skip in front of the IBF.

I'm not all over the place at all. Once the WBO pulled the last second switcheroo and suddenly the Povetkin fight didn't count as a mandatory, Whyte instantly became WBO #1 in the next ratings. When Whyte refused to fight Joshua, Usyk was named WBO mandatory and it was announced he was signing with Hearn.

I don't understand why you're so convinced that Hearn is an idiot. He's a brilliant promoter. He wasn't going to sit idly by while Joshua was forced to fight a series of non-Matchroom fighters. He knew for sure the IBF mandatory wouldn't be a Matchroom fighter, so he was doing everything he could to gain control of the WBO mandatory, and have it take place before the IBF mandatory.

Was Dillian Whyte installed as AJ's WBO mando after Povetkin was removed?

No, he wasn't. If he had been, he would have fought AJ in April last year and Hearn wouldn't have needed to cancel his highly publicised Wembley show.

Was Usyk installed as WBO mando after Whyte turned down the Wembley date with AJ?

No he wasn't. Usyk didn't become AJ's mando till he relinquished the WBO CW title and moved up to HW 9 months later, as per WBO rules on undisputed champions moving divisions

Did the WBO make Hearn's job 10x more difficult than it might have been by inexplicably removing Povetkin as their mando and denying AJ a golden opportunity to fulfill 2 mandatory obligations in one fight?

Yes, they did.

Were Hearn/AJ forced to send offers to or fight a series of non-Matchroom fighters after all this happened?

Yes, they were.

Is Hearn an idiot?

No, he isn't, but he clearly doesn't have the power to dictate mandos to sanctioning orgs either.

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Was Dillian Whyte installed as AJ's WBO mando after Povetkin was removed?

No, he wasn't. If he had been, he would have fought AJ in April last year and Hearn wouldn't have needed to cancel his highly publicised Wembley show.

You're not making any sense. You can't force anyone to fight anyone. Whyte was WBO #1 and offered the Joshua fight, but turned it down.

Was Usyk installed as WBO mando after Whyte turned down the Wembley date with AJ?

No he wasn't. Usyk didn't become AJ's mando till he relinquished the WBO CW title and moved up to HW 9 months later,

Once Whyte turned down a WBO title shot, he didn't immediately lose his rating. Hearn timed things very well. Whyte took a WBC fight in July, making him ineligible for the WBO ratings. When the new ratings came out in August, Usyk was named #1. A few weeks later, it was announced he had signed with Hearn. All of this stuff is orchestrated.

Is Hearn an idiot?

No, he isn't, but he clearly doesn't have the power to dictate mandos to sanctioning orgs either.

Of course he has the power to dictate to the orgs. He has the biggest cash cow in all of boxing. When he wanted the WBA to release a letter to justify ducking Wilder, they did.

When he wanted the WBO to count Povetkin as their mandatory too, they said sure. When he didn't want the WBO to count Povetkin as their mandatory anymore, they said sure. Everything is coordinated. Don't be so naive.

[smooovey]

who is davis higgans? get it right boxing scene!

[smooovey]

hughie fury was ordered to fight parker as mando and tyson fury was wbo mando to klitschko which was ordered for tyson to get that fight

[kafkod]

Because he wanted to be able to use the WBO mandatory as a way to do an in house fight before having to deal with Pulev, a Top Rank fighter.

The WBO had publicly confirmed Povetkin as their mandatory, had him rated #1, Povetkin was WBO international champion and had been actively defending the title, etc.

Then suddenly, right before the fight, the WBO says Povetkin isn't the mandatory and Hearn starts talking about Dillian Whyte being the WBO mandatory. When Whyte passed on the Joshua fight, then Usyk is suddenly WBO mandatory. All Hearn fighters. It's just a ploy to delay the IBF mandatory.

That's what all the fighting is about. The WBO is saying they haven't had their turn yet and the IBF is saying that's ridiculous. You already said Povetkin was your mandatory, he was #1 in your ratings when Joshua fought him, you can't just not count it as a mandatory to try to get back in front of us in line.

You're not making any sense. You can't force anyone to fight anyone. Whyte was WBO #1 and offered the Joshua fight, but turned it down.




Once Whyte turned down a WBO title shot, he didn't immediately lose his rating. Hearn timed things very well. Whyte took a WBC fight in July, making him ineligible for the WBO ratings. When the new ratings came out in August, Usyk was named #1. A few weeks later, it was announced he had signed with Hearn. All of this stuff is orchestrated.




Of course he has the power to dictate to the orgs. He has the biggest cash cow in all of boxing. When he wanted the WBA to release a letter to justify ducking Wilder, they did.

When he wanted the WBO to count Povetkin as their mandatory too, they said sure. When he didn't want the WBO to count Povetkin as their mandatory anymore, they said sure. Everything is coordinated. Don't be so naive.

So Hearn maneuvered Povetkin out of the WBO mando position to make way for Dillian Whyte - who never became the WBO mando - to help him set up a WBO title fight between AJ and Whyte - which never took place - 6 months later?

He also did it so AJ could avoid an IBF mando with Pulev - who wasn't the IBF mandatory challenger at that time- by fighting a WBO mando with Usyk - who wasn't the WBO mandatory challenger at that time - 18 months down the line?

Funny stuff!

And to make this shit even crazier, AJ hasn't yet found out whether his next mando will be the IBF or the WBO!

If he ends up fighting Pulev instead of Usyk, are you going to rewrite history all over again to try and convince people that avoiding Usyk by fighting Pulev, rather than the other way round, was Hearn's real plan all along?

Be warned, I'm going to bookmark this thread in case you try that ...

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So Hearn maneuvered Povetkin out of the WBO mando position to make way for Dillian Whyte

Hearn changed his mind about wanting Povetkin to be double mandatory because he decided he might want to take Whyte the WBO route and didn't want the IBF to be next in the rotation. The fact that Whyte ended up turning down the fight later on doesn't change Hearn's motivation at the time.

When his Whyte plan didn't work, he signed Whyte's replacement. So he still had every reason to want the WBO to be ahead of the IBF in the rotation.

I'm not sure why you're struggling so much here.

THE IBF MANDATORY 100% DEFINITELY WASN'T GOING TO BE A HEARN FIGHTER.

So Hearn tried to make sure a) the WBO mandatory would be a Hearn fighter and b) the WBO mandatory would stay ahead of the IBF in the rotation.

The IBF saw through the ruse and is refusing to play along. But you can't blame Hearn for trying.

[kafkod]

Hearn changed his mind about wanting Povetkin to be double mandatory because he decided he might want to take Whyte the WBO route and didn't want the IBF to be next in the rotation. The fact that Whyte ended up turning down the fight later on doesn't change Hearn's motivation at the time.

When his Whyte plan didn't work, he signed Whyte's replacement. So he still had every reason to want the WBO to be ahead of the IBF in the rotation.

I'm not sure why you're struggling so much here.

THE IBF MANDATORY 100% DEFINITELY WASN'T GOING TO BE A HEARN FIGHTER.

So Hearn tried to make sure a) the WBO mandatory would be a Hearn fighter and b) the WBO mandatory would stay ahead of the IBF in the rotation.

The IBF saw through the ruse and is refusing to play along. But you can't blame Hearn for trying.

I pointed out several factual errors and logical inconsistencies in your crazy conspiracy theory but you're still plugging it.

Are you a flat Earther?

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I pointed out several factual errors and logical inconsistencies in your crazy conspiracy theory but you're still plugging it.

It's not a conspiracy theory and there's nothing illogical about Hearn trying to protect the titles. Everyone in the industry knew Pulev was going to be the mandatory. If you thought Hughie had a chance of winning a decision in Bulgaria, you're very naive. Even still, Hearn didn't have Hughie. So the IBF was not an in-house fight regardless.

Hearn decided to try to keep the WBO in front of the IBF in the rotation and had Whyte installed as the new #1. Just because he couldn't convince Whyte to take the fight doesn't mean he didn't have motivation to put him in the spot to begin with. Once Whyte refused the fight, Hearn signs Usyk, the new #1.

He wanted to delay the non in-house fight. Not sure what you're struggling with here.

[kafkod]

It's not a conspiracy theory and there's nothing illogical about Hearn trying to protect the titles. Everyone in the industry knew Pulev was going to be the mandatory. If you thought Hughie had a chance of winning a decision in Bulgaria, you're very naive. Even still, Hearn didn't have Hughie. So the IBF was not an in-house fight regardless.

Hearn decided to try to keep the WBO in front of the IBF in the rotation and had Whyte installed as the new #1. Just because he couldn't convince Whyte to take the fight doesn't mean he didn't have motivation to put him in the spot to begin with. Once Whyte refused the fight, Hearn signs Usyk, the new #1.

He wanted to delay the non in-house fight. Not sure what you're struggling with here.

Everybody in the industry most certainly did not know that Pulev would become the IBF mando.

He was in late 30s and had been sidelined for 18 months with a bad injury when he was matched with Hughie Fury in a final eliminator. Most pundits thought Hughie had a decent chance of beating him, which was why Pulev was only a marginal favourite, despite having home advantage.

Whyte became the new WBO No1 because Povetkin got KTFO by AJ. The fact that he wasn't given the WBO mando spot, in itself, makes nonsense of your theory.

"Once Whyte refused the fight, Hearn signs Usyk, the new #1."

That is the most cynical and disingenuous part of your whole ridiculous story.

I'm sure you know full well that Hearn didn't sign Usyk as a response to Whyte turning down the AJ fight and that Usyk was still fighting at CW and not even ranked at HW by the WBO or anybody else when he was signed by Eddie.