Why do people rate Canelo's resume so high, even relative to GGG's?

[aboutfkntime]

The versions of Cotto and Mosley that fought Canelo would not beat Jacobs I'm certain of that. If Jacobs had fought Mosley he would be ridiculed because he's way too big and Mosley was shot. Lara would not be favored by the bookies to beat Jacobs.

FACT: the best win on Golovkin's resume was a HUGE underdog



the best win on Canelo's record was when he was a HUGE underdog

Tony Baloney..... you LITERALLY would not know a good fighter, if he walked up and punched you in the face

[TonyGe]

FACT: the best win on Golovkin's resume was a HUGE underdog



the best win on Canelo's record was when he was a HUGE underdog

Tony Baloney..... you LITERALLY would not know a good fighter, if he walked up and punched you in the face

If he walked up and punched me in the face he would be nothing but a street punk.

[VERSION1 (V1)]

Lol...how are they not honestly...it's not just who you face, but when/where etc you face them, and how effectively you beat them...that's how I have always seen it anyway.

Brook was not at an ideal weight...this is true...but he was a 147 champion in his prime and he lasted 4-5 rounds vs GGG...brutal stoppage...Stevens was in his prime and got put out in 8 rounds and maybe won 1 round...Vanes was a little inactive and moving up in weight but he was put out in 2 rounds...and many people gave him the first round vs GGG in that fight actually.

I have watched a lot of his fights since I was a big Lara fan...and he looked about the same there to me vs GGG as he always has....moving up in weight was a bigger issue imo than the layoff...he had nothing to keep GGG off of him so he got ran over.

Ouma was a former champ and probably gave GGG his toughest fight (TO THIS DAY imo - Wilder impression there)...before the stoppage I had that one pretty even...Ouma was coming off a few losses in his last few fights...this is true...but the manner in which GGG beat him relative to what those guys did was impressive imo...especially since a few of those fights were questionable decisions.

If GGG was going 12 rounds with those guys...and winning 8-4 decisions...I would completely agree that they were only OK wins...or even less than OK...but the opponents were solid there and he just destroyed all of them...like 15 of them...very impressive in my view.

Vanes had not fought in two years plus he was come off a loss

[Boxing_1013]

Vanes had not fought in two years plus he was come off a loss

No doubt...not really hyping up that win for GGG...I don't really care about the coming off a loss angle as it was against Lara who I rate very highly...and it was competitive.

The 2 years inactivity was an issue though...but to be honest I think Vanes looked fine in there and actually caught GGG with a nice combo at the end of the round that may have won him the round despite GGG outlanding him heavily.

I think more of the issue for Vanes was the coming up in weight...GGG has shown his whole career imo that if you can't compete with him physically you are going out and going out quick and that is what happened...even a prime active Vanes I think would have suffered the same fate...just a styles makes fights thing imo.

[Boxing_1013]

and now, EVERYONE who knows boxing can see that you are a casual-fan idiot who has no idea about levels/styles

honestly, Lemieux is a scrub..... he is the very definition of average, there is no other way to put it..... there is nothing great about a heavy-handed guy knocking out a low-skilled static opponent..... beating Lara was a much better accomplishment, and much more difficult to achieve..... Canelo would likely have also stopped Pepe Le Pew, and Golovkin ducked Lara for a reason

you are a total idiot

Nah I don't really agree with calling a guy a bum just because he loses or gets KOed...that version of Lemieux was a formidable test for anyone...he was 9-0 in his last nine, all against good enough opposition.

This version of Canelo possibly stops him but it would be a different fight with Canelo doing more boxing and moving rather than walking him down/holding the center of the ring like GGG did...I would pick Canelo to win that one but it would be a good challenge for him...Lemieux now would still be a decent test for him.

[aboutfkntime]

.....GGG stopping and dominating Lemieux and Murray was more impressive than Canelo going 12 with Cotto and Lara.....

there is not one word of truth in that

you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

casual-fans are literally clueless about styles/levels/weight

shameful

the bold is sig-worthy..... you are totally clueless LMAO

Lara was great but not really much different difficulty than Murray was at the time they fought GGG and Nelo.

that is an absurd thing to say, you are an utter fool

Lara and Cotto were levels above the two static opponents Murray and Lemieux..... Gennady's ko success is entirely due to the fact that they avoided mover/spoilers to solely focus on flat-footed static "tough-guy" opponents who Golovkin could land on

we saw what happened when Golovkin stepped up in class

Stopping prime Cotto would be a great win...going 12 rounds with him at 155 in a close fight is a pretty good win...GGG stopping Lemieux who had a belt in dominating fashion was a really good win imo...just how I analyzed all of that.

If GGG went 12 with Cotto at 160 I would say it wasn't a great win...if he edged out Lara I would say it was a good win but would not really say he excelled in either of those if he had tight fights with them.

Tbh I don't really see the rationale for hyping up Canelo's performances against Mosley and Cotto...I would expect a stoppage from Nelo against those versions of Cotto and Mosley...Lara has always been a good win though, I give Nelo full credit for that one.

only dopey casual-fans insist that a fighter must KO his opponent in order for it to be regarded as a good win

you absolutely REEK of dumb casual-fan

just saying LMAO

you are slightly more clueless than TonyGE, who has learned a lot in the last 6 months

[aboutfkntime]

No doubt...not really hyping up that win for GGG...I don't really care about the coming off a loss angle as it was against Lara who I rate very highly...and it was competitive.

The 2 years inactivity was an issue though...but to be honest I think Vanes looked fine in there and actually caught GGG with a nice combo at the end of the round that may have won him the round despite GGG outlanding him heavily.

I think more of the issue for Vanes was the coming up in weight...GGG has shown his whole career imo that if you can't compete with him physically you are going out and going out quick and that is what happened...even a prime active Vanes I think would have suffered the same fate...just a styles makes fights thing imo.

you rated Vanes as... " a good win "... for Golovkin LMAO

and you rated Mosley as..... " ok "..... for Canelo

could you possibly squeeze your casual-fan head, any further up Golovkin's over-rated ass than it already is? loooool

[aboutfkntime]

Nah I don't really agree with calling a guy a bum just because he loses or gets KOed...that version of Lemieux was a formidable test for anyone...he was 9-0 in his last nine, all against good enough opposition.

This version of Canelo possibly stops him but it would be a different fight with Canelo doing more boxing and moving rather than walking him down/holding the center of the ring like GGG did...I would pick Canelo to win that one but it would be a good challenge for him...Lemieux now would still be a decent test for him.

you are a total fkn moron

that would be a disgraceful shlt fight... for someone on Canelo's level

which is why it has not happened

Golovkin's best wins..... are Canelo's rejects

Lemieux would get outclassed... beaten up.... and stopped

[New England]

well having a better resume helps. he beat lara when he was the boogeyman, trout with a head full of steam coming off of a victory over miguel cotto. beat golovkin, a genuinely fierce puncher and likely hall of famer. beat jacobs, a bigger man and an athletic fighter with power. got a meaningless trinket at 168, but it's a feather in his cap that golovkin does not have and makes him a three weight world champion. the titles at 154 and 160 are legit, you can easily argue that he beat his two best contenders at both weights.

[Boxing_1013]

Golovkin's best wins..... are Canelo's rejects

You have that the other way around