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    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    He isn't even trying to add to his legacy leaving his bytch fans to try and talk up a resume of fighting house arrest Wade, retired 154lb Vanes, 8 round 35 year old nobody Rolls, career gate keeper Rosado, Curtis Stevens who has lost to everybody and before he fought GGG was white washed by Jessie Brinkley and knocked out by a bum with 38 career losses Primera.
    Wade was a mando and probably like his 20th best win lol...I never ever mention that as a good win.

    Vanes was not ideal and not a top 10 win either...nor was Rolls or Rosado...but he destroyed all 3 and they were all solid...Stevens was KOd 7 years before that GGG fight...wow...lol...then in the next fight he beat Primera.

    Also his only other losses were a UD to Andre Dirrell and a loss to not good Jesse Brinkley at 168...and yeah when Stevens faced GGG he was probably the best version of himself and he still got KOd in 8 and won maybe 1 round....why embellish and say he 'lost to everybody' lol....just makes you seem not objective honestly.

    Meanwhile James Kirkland is a top 10 win for Canelo...and GGG KOed Ishida in 3 rounds...and Ishida is maybe GGG's 15th best win...and Ishida KOed Kirkland in 1 round lol.

    So G's 15th best win, KOed Canelo's 8th best win in 1 round...ouch

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      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
      You aren't looking at it objectively, you're looking it in fantasy land that Golovkin can beat them. Which again is irrelevant. Canelo's resume is so far ahead of Golovkins that this thread is a joke or a troll.

      Lara would have beat Golovkin by the way. Golovkin couldn't cut off the ring against "cement feet" Canelo, Lara would have ran circles around him. Which is why Golovkin wanted nothing to do with Lara.
      Who cuts the ring off better GGG or Angulo? Cuz I'm pretty sure Lara got almost killed when they fought.

      Golovkin would have mop the floor with Lara.

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        Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
        I stopped at beating Kell Brook as a good win yet Canelo beating Khan is an OK win. They are the same win ok win..

        Idc if GGG knocked out Brook with the first punch. And his mouth piece flies out and hits Ingle in the face knocking him out. That would never be a good win.
        If he did KO him with one punch I would say it wasn't really a good win..but he basically ended the career of a guy who actually had a style which presumably could have beaten him...young, good mover, could take a punch...if Brook could/would have boxed and moved well, he may have been able to get rounds off of GGG and won a hometown decision at worst

        Khan imo was not a good win, or as good, because he had 0 chance to actually beat Canelo...he was never going to get enough rounds against him in Vegas...and all Canelo had to do was land 1 punch in 12 rounds and he would win...GGG didn't have that same luxury...my perception of those fights anyways.

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          Originally posted by Szef View Post
          Who cuts the ring off better GGG or Angulo? Cuz I'm pretty sure Lara got almost killed when they fought.

          Golovkin would have mop the floor with Lara.
          Golovkin wouldn't have laid a glove on Lara. No point trying to fool anyone anymore, the game is up. Remember all you clowns saying Golovkin was a master at cutting off the ring and Canelo was cement footed? Golovkin showed he's far more "cement footed" than Canelo.

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            Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
            What was GGG’s resume at 28?
            Fair point...Canelo has packed a lot in in a short amount of time...age wise he is young...but he has put in a lot of miles...it will be interesting to see what his next few years brings.

            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            EVERYONE who read that... knows that you are a silly casual fan

            Canelo CLEARLY has a better resume than Hypekin

            you badly over-rated many of the scrubs on his shabby resume, which was hilarious..... and you badly under-rated the NAME-opponents on Canelo's resume..... referring to a scrub as "prime" is just silly

            like I have said many times.....

            casual-fans know nothing about styles / levels / weight
            What is your top 10 wins for each guy Mr Time?

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              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              Golovkin wouldn't have laid a glove on Lara. No point trying to fool anyone anymore, the game is up. Remember all you clowns saying Golovkin was a master at cutting off the ring and Canelo was cement footed?
              Canelo has the power to keep Golovkin honest. Lara doesn't. And we are talking about prime GGG here not the old version Canelo fought.

              Remember how you bet like 300 pounds on Canelo stopping GGG? 😂

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                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                which one of G's scrubs do you think could have beaten Canelo you shlt talking muppet ?

                name him !!

                this will be funny

                you are a shlt-talking undercover g-string
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                you have ploughed your nose WAAAAAY up his ass



                you owe us that name

                who would have beaten Canelo... name him, you crack-head... ???

                Lol...why are you so emotional though? lol...if Canelo's resume was really so much superior to GGG's then it would be pretty easy to point out why...and you would think one could do that without getting super emotional...you sound like you're defending your woman of 30 years or something dude lol.

                I do think some on GGG's resume would have very possibly beaten Canelo or at least gone 12...maybe when you stop hyper-ventilating over there I will bless you and have an actual boxing discussion with ya

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                  Originally posted by Szef View Post
                  Canelo has the power to keep Golovkin honest. Lara doesn't. And we are talking about prime GGG here not the old version Canelo fought.

                  Remember how you bet like 300 pounds on Canelo stopping GGG? ��
                  Back to excuses about Golovkin being old. He looked back to his prime self again when he fought Vanes, i wonder why? Golovkin was an hype job. He was lucky to sc**** by Jacobs, that fight could have gone the other way. He ducked Lara for a reason. The hype is over man. There's a few of you idiots still trying to fool people but it's not working anymore.


                  Canelo would have stopped him if Golovkin had the nuts to throw caution to the wind, but no he'd rather survive and cry robbery.

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                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                    Back to excuses about Golovkin being old. He looked back to his prime self again when he fought Vanes, i wonder why? Golovkin was an hype job. He was lucky to sc**** by Jacobs, that fight could have gone the other way. He ducked Lara for a reason. The hype is over man. There's a few of you idiots still trying to fool people but it's not working anymore.


                    Canelo would have stopped him if Golovkin had the nuts to throw caution to the wind, but no he'd rather survive and cry robbery.
                    What excuse? He IS old.

                    No he wasn't prime when he fought Vanes. He was prime when he fought Macklin. That was the absolute best version of Golovkin I've seen. Look how fluid was his movement. Now compare that to the 2018 version of his.
                    Last edited by Szef; 07-14-2019, 03:33 AM.

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                      Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
                      I've mentioned many times...I judge a fighter not just on who he beats...but also how/when/where etc...I think most people acknowledge that when you face a certain guy matters...yet a lot of people seem to really hype up Nelo's win over Mosley for example...and sorry I just don't really view that as a better win than say GGG's over Monroe...especially considering the manner in which GGG won his fight vs Nelo's win over Mosley.

                      Btw - GGG beat Jacobs too lol...and with a KD...and I thought both wins were clear for Nelo and GGG there...but I scored it 8-4 for GGG and 7-5 for Nelo...and I think the stats more or less back me up on that...I would say that GGG beat him first too but honestly I don't really think that matters too much.

                      I would also say that to the other stuff you mentioned...I'm not interested in judging a fighter really by what accolades he had or has...that is kind of inviting cherry picking in a way...I am just interested in what a fighter has skills wise...and I think a lot of guys that Canelo faced - Mosley, Cotto etc...were obviously not the same (HOF in their cases) fighters that they were at their peak.

                      Who would you list at Canelo's best 10 wins? And since I assume you will list his 'win' over GGG I will list GGG's 10 best wins...and will include Canelo at least once since I personally saw him beat him twice.

                      1) Nelo
                      2) Jacobs
                      3) Murray
                      4) Lemieux
                      5) Monroe
                      6) Brook
                      7) Geale
                      8) Stevens
                      9) Macklin
                      10) Ouma

                      3-10 all clear wins..all by dominant KO.

                      For Canelo I would I guess have it

                      1) GGG (even though I saw 2 clear wins for GGG I will humor you here)
                      2) Lara (7-5 Canelo imo)
                      3) Jacobs
                      4) Cotto
                      5) Trout
                      6) Smith?
                      7) Mosley?
                      8) Angulo?
                      9) Kirkland?
                      10) Lopez?

                      I mean...GGG fights he clearly lost imo...and 2-3 were very good wins...but honestly 4-10 is a little meh, especially as far as how unimpressively he won some of those...I don't really think going 12 with Trout was a better win than GGG running through Monroe...I just don't really see it that way
                      Of course belts and accolades matter in determining the caliber of opponents you dufus. And nobody cares about your selective bs and pretend wins GGG didn't get. In the real world he NEVER beat Canelo he lost. And in the real world bums like Vanes and Rolls aren't considered good or even ok wins. Fact Canelo's opponents achieved more in boxing before and after facing canelo then GGG's opponents. Why is that? The same reason why Canelo's opponents have won more Championships in their career. Hell forget their career achievements and just look at where they were ranked at the time they fought Canelo or GGG. Canelo's opponents were either p4p or universally top 10 ranked. GGG has beaten ZERO top top p4p ranked fighters and very few that were top 10 ranked at middleweight. Rolls, vanes, Wade, stevens barely none of his opponents were top ten ranked when GGG fought them.

                      Of course you don't want to use real concrete examples of what fighters accomplished or where they were ranked when they were fought because this is some troll bs thread where you created your own make believe land where dragging up a WW up to 160 is a good win but Canelo dragging up a WW to 155 isn't? And GGG beating up Lemieux who had already been beaten and exposed by b and c class fighters before GGG is equal to canelo beating Cotto and trout who were either undefeated or only lost to elite fighters when Canelo fought them. Cotto is washed up yet a washed up Cotto destroyed geale worse then GGG did? Then you bring up dominating wins then refuse to acknowledge that GGG has zero dominating wins against quality opponents. Jacobs was a phuking flash knockdown you clown and many feel even with the flash knockdown GGG lost that fight. Meanwhile Canelo easily beat Jacobs with no controversy. The double standards and absurd lengths you went through just because you are sensitive that Canelo not only beat GGG but broke his face and beat the Mexican style out his azzz but in 1 year already shyt on GGG'S entire legacy at middleweight. Just because you keep repeating a false equivalent don't make it true. There is no universe where Cotto, trout, Lara = Lemieux, Murray, Monroe LMAO

                      You could repeat it a million times put it side by side in a million lists and guess what it still won't be true. And destroying lesser opponents will be the NEVER be the same as beating better fighters. You don't get extra points for KOing tomato cans

                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 07-14-2019, 03:32 AM.

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