How would you rate Manny if he KOs Thurman and then decisions Spence?

[Skyway71]

But Floyd ducked Keith at the time he was mandatory. Instead he fought Berto. He had all the main titles except IBF after he fought Pac and yet he did not unify with Brook for the IBF title.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Spence IMO is as highly respected as all of them except he is not a top 2 or 3 p4p like Manny and JMM were when Floyd beat them. I believe he is between 5-7 in most rankings, which is where Corrales was when Floyd beat him.

That stated, if Manny beats Spence and Crawford, I think we can have a really good debate.

Floyd was 36 when he beat Canelo. Does pac have any win as good as that beyond age 35?

green canelo weight drain. now if it was the canelo now and not weight drain, then floyd would give full credit.

and sure he does, he has wins over a undefeated tim bradley and is about to add thurman to his resume as well. thurman, bradley > 152, 21 year old canelo. just imo.

[Blue54]

Id rate him prob dead at p4p 11 or 10 but i still have Floyd top 3 of all time. Wins over Thurman and Spence at this point elevste Manny very highly imo but if he loses it dosent hurt his legacy much either.

[hugh grant]

I think he climbs a few notches for sure. If you are asking does he pass Floyd-no. Why? Because Thurman, while young, isn't as good right now as Manny, Mosley, Corrales, JMM, ODH or Cotto were when Floyd fought them even though they were older than Thurman.

You talk like it's a mathematical equation you've proven? When you add it to all pac s others wins, the mathematical equation is Pac is GOAT.
There's no other logical answer

[Joe Beamish]

That would be almost incredible. I'll worry about when it happens.

[Eff Pandas]

At worst he'd be #2 to Bud & more likely he's be #1.

[The Big Dunn]

You talk like it's a mathematical equation you've proven? When you add it to all pac s others wins, the mathematical equation is Pac is GOAT.
There's no other logical answer

No one credible has Manny any higher than #2 in his generation or top 25 ATG. The only ones who post stuff like this are diehard fans like yourself.

You can't separate your fandom and lust from your evaluation of his career.

[The Big Dunn]

green canelo weight drain. now if it was the canelo now and not weight drain, then floyd would give full credit.

and sure he does, he has wins over a undefeated tim bradley and is about to add thurman to his resume as well. thurman, bradley > 152, 21 year old canelo. just imo.

Please stop. Canelo wasn't green nor was he drained. If you are going to do that, then we can take away Manny's best win, Cotto, because he was drained as well.

Come on dude you are just posting that just because. You really don't think Thurman or Bradley is better than where Canelo was when he fought Floyd.

[The Big Dunn]

jmm wasnt either when floyd fought him. and pac? you mean the same pac that died and came back to life already?

that stated, if pac beat thurman, it will definitely put him above floyd since thurman was the fighter floyd ducked. i think this hold more value that a win over spence or crawford (not proven).

Just because Floyd didn't fight him that doesn't mean he ducked him. If what you said was valid, then I should give Floyd credit for Corrales, Castillo and Maidana, all guys Manny (based on this logic) ducked.

STop with the ****** make believe theories where you as a Manny fan try to elevate him over Floyd simply because you like Manny.

Just accept the fact that while he had a great career, Floyd's was just better. You make Manny look weaker when you try and gerrymander Floyd's opponent's because those same theories lower manny's opposition even more when applied to his career.

[Chuckguy]

If he gets two clear victories over 2 young lions where do you rate Manny all time?

Top 150 for sure