Bigger transformation Joshua or Holly?

[D4thincarnation]

That's because of the effects of gravity on an ageing body.

Anyone retiring from the coal-mines of life, might have noticed an ever growing defacement. Their noses and ears appear to be bigger. In fact, they are. There is a common misconception this growth is due to cartilage continuing to grow as you age. In reality, this isn’t true. The real reason our noses and ears keep growing, is the result of that red-headed-stepchild of fundamental forces, gravity.

They are getting bigger then, but in Joshua and Holyfield it is clear they look smaller in the pictures when they are older.

[Robbie Barrett]

They are getting bigger then, but in Joshua and Holyfield it is clear they look smaller in the pictures when they are older.

Their faces got fatter which makes their noses look smaller. Look at Joshua's chin in the teen photo.

[D4thincarnation]

Their faces got fatter which makes their noses look smaller. Look at Joshua's chin in the teen photo.

Crazy as they seem to have less body fat

[Grimgash]

I've said it before.... most top athletes of any sport are juicing. I've talked to people with no knowledge on steroids before and they all say the same thing, why would they want to get big. In this case it's easy, but some steroids increase endurance, some increase blood cell count (endurance again), some open air ways, some drop excess water weight, then there's your normal size and strength types which can also be broken down. The knowledge of roids by a lot of people especially on these forums is laughable. Like Steroids mean test and that's all there is to it... which is far from the truth.

Look at russia, state sponsored doping and they'd switch, or pay people to switch samples. It's far more common than you'd think. If most of you actually lifted you'd notice you don't add tons of muscle and stay ripped very easily. Adding a ton of weight of lean muscle is not what humans can do naturally. Look at tested body builders... who's entire life is lifting weights adding muscle.... they're tiny midgets compared to professional body builders. Also for a taller guy to fill out with some much muscle is insanity. It takes way more muscle than for a shorter person as they're elongated to fit your bone structure of a taller individual.

That's all from me, just wish more people would accept most pro athletes of any sport take enhancement drugs for one reason or another, and it's VERY easy to get around testing. There's a documentary called Icarus about Olympic doping scandals mainly Russias.

[D4thincarnation]

Their faces got fatter which makes their noses look smaller. Look at Joshua's chin in the teen photo.

And like I said, I have put on near 50% of my body weight since I was 18, and my nose has not shrunk relatively to the size of my face.

[Robbie Barrett]

I've said it before.... most top athletes of any sport are juicing. I've talked to people with no knowledge on steroids before and they all say the same thing, why would they want to get big. In this case it's easy, but some steroids increase endurance, some increase blood cell count (endurance again), some open air ways, some drop excess water weight, then there's your normal size and strength types which can also be broken down. The knowledge of roids by a lot of people especially on these forums is laughable. Like Steroids mean test and that's all there is to it... which is far from the truth.

Look at russia, state sponsored doping and they'd switch, or pay people to switch samples. It's far more common than you'd think. If most of you actually lifted you'd notice you don't add tons of muscle and stay ripped very easily. Adding a ton of weight of lean muscle is not what humans can do naturally. Look at tested body builders... who's entire life is lifting weights adding muscle.... they're tiny midgets compared to professional body builders. Also for a taller guy to fill out with some much muscle is insanity. It takes way more muscle than for a shorter person as they're elongated to fit your bone structure of a taller individual.

That's all from me, just wish more people would accept most pro athletes of any sport take enhancement drugs for one reason or another, and it's VERY easy to get around testing. There's a documentary called Icarus about Olympic doping scandals mainly Russias.

Joshua is nowhere near the size of pro bodybuilders he's 6'6 245. He's just a big muscular guy. Not impossible for him to do naturally.

[todisday]

Whoa, man. If that's how Joshua looked at 19, what do they put in those steroids O_O?

[Robbie Barrett]

And like I said, I have put on near 50% of my body weight since I was 18, and my nose has not shrunk relatively to the size of my face.

If your face gets fatter your nose will look smaller. It's not magic.

[D4thincarnation]

If your face gets fatter your nose will look smaller. It's not magic.

I'm 15% body fat now.

I was about 8% at 18.

[Grimgash]

Joshua is nowhere near the size of pro bodybuilders he's 6'6 245. He's just a big muscular guy. Not impossible for him to do naturally.

As a boxer it's pretty close to impossible. Like I said I'm not calling him out as a personal bias... I did say almost all top athletes in any sport juice. But with as much cardio as he does for boxing and his frame, it's near impossible. Can he be natural? Maybe I haven't met him in person to judge which helps a lot, but it is highly unlikely he doesn't or hasn't ever taking some type of PED. Which to me is fine since I just assume most are on them anyhow, I've stated before just open it up to even the playing field.