Bigger transformation Joshua or Holly?

[Deus]

OP is comparing a picture of somebody as a teenager (read; not fully grown/developed) to that of an adult? Logical.

It really doesn't matter at this point because they are both confirmed juicers anyhow but they are good fighters though. Evander Holyfield is in the Hall of Fame and Anthony Joshua is a future Hall of Famer. So it doesn't make a difference how much either has cheated.

Confirmed juicers? A confirmed juicer is somebody that has tested positive for PED's. Joshua has not.

I think the stringent random tests that the WBC require through VADA made Joshua turn down the $50 million. UKAD testing is a joke compared to VADA, as we saw in the BJS case.

Joshua is the WBA champion and thus has to follow their drug testing protocol... which is near enough exactly the same as the WBC's using VADA and has been ongoing since 2017.

[champion4ever]

Confirmed juicers? A confirmed juicer is somebody that has tested positive for PED's. Joshua has not.

You are right. Perhaps, I misspoke. Let me just say that it has been alleged that Anthony Joshua has juiced because he receives Testosterone Replacement Therapy; Something which he has never denied or confirmed.

Typically, TRT and low testosterone levels are complications and signs of steroid abuse. Not saying that he is but it does make one very skeptical and su****ious because low testosterone levels are typically associated with older men over the age of 50.

So the question is, what does a young man in his 20s need to boost his testosterone levels for other than he cannot produce it naturally due to excessive levels and how does testosterone reach excessive levels; Through juicing?

[Cloud]

Roy Jones had an obvious transformation, and even failed a test, but nobody seems to care..

[j0zef]

Don't think either one is a huge transformation considering how much time has passed. That's ~2-3 years avg.

[Deus]

You are right. Perhaps, I misspoke. Let me just say that it has been alleged that Anthony Joshua has juiced because he receives Testosterone Replacement Therapy; Something which he has never denied or confirmed.

Typically, TRT and low testosterone levels are complications and signs of steroid abuse. Not saying that he is but it does make one very skeptical and su****ious because low testosterone levels are typically associated with older men over the age of 50.

So the question is, what does a young man in his 20s need to boost his testosterone levels for other than he cannot produce it naturally due to excessive levels and how does testosterone reach excessive levels; Through juicing?

Neither Joshua nor his team have confirmed that he has had TRT so your question is based solely on a hypothetical. Not that it matters anyway; you've decided Joshua is a juicer because it suits your narrative.

[nacho daddy]

Its called growing into your man body. I grew 40+ lbs of natural lean meat when i went from 18-25. No roids/supplements needed. People here sound like they never lifted weights before.

you are a liar

[nacho daddy]

No, he has never failed a drug test and neither has Joshua. However they have both been heavily implicated though.

neither did lance Armstrong until he could not make money for the elites when older

[champion4ever]

Neither Joshua nor his team have confirmed that he has had TRT so your question is based solely on a hypothetical. Not that it matters anyway; you've decided Joshua is a juicer because it suits your narrative.

I can't confirm one way or the other whether he is or isn't. So I don't know. I'm just basing my opinion off the rumors and insinuations that he is. I have no prove to back up this claim; None whatsoever.

[Armchairhero]

you are a liar

You must be quite skinny, this isn’t that hard to achieve. Gaining size happens in your 1st 2-4 years of training, you pretty much are stuck at that size after that, then you turn to PEDs to push the envelope.

Going from adolescent to adult alone can change men seemingly overnight even without training. Chuck weights and a good diet into the mix and you can expect a good 2 stone in a relatively short amount of time.

[Toffee]

Damn after seeing this AJ might be on the juice. He had no muscle tone at all. He had a Barry bonds transformation. In what, less than five years.

The dates are literally on the photos. It's 10 years from starting boxing as a teen, to a man who has trained for a decade.