Comments Thread For: Barry Hearn: Wilder is Not Very Good, Easiest Fight For Joshua

[REDEEMER]

What are you talking about?

If we actually had a unified/undisputed heavyweight champion (with the WBC/WBA/IBF working together), you could actually have a global attraction, lol.

The big fights will always end up in the UK or Vegas/New York, but now you drastically expand where you can take the not so big fights, simply due to having an undisputed heavyweight champion.

Bird Nest in Beijing, Tokyo Dome in Japan, a few venues in Africa, a few places in Europe, etc; all based on what fight is called.

Joshua and his camp have a legit chance at becoming the first billion dollar fighter, and they're not taking that chance yet because there's still some smaller money tickover fights on the table and because that chance is coming on a 50/50 shot and that's a bit more risk than they want right now.

Joshua is a global attraction , Wilder is more or less a Barclays one so much Fury was carrying the U.S fight with no belts. Wilder has a shelf life of about 2 years ,AJ has another 8 years no minimum . So it doesn't matter who you think will dictate his career ,seems to be doing just fine .

For someone once again who complain to others that talk about money you Wilder fans sure concern yourselves with Joshuas finances when it comes to when you want to play the blame game , a game you guys continue to lose.

[R_Walken]

If you honestly think that Wilder hasn't faced a puncher in his whole run, outside of Ortiz, you're bugging.

And worrying about combos is missing the forest for the trees. Wilder's head coach is Mark Breland, a tall long gangly former welterweight Olympic gold medalist with explosive power at the end of his whip-like frame (Remind you of anyone).

You watch Breland fight, and you get a pretty good idea of what Wilder can end up looking like if he picks up all of this knowledge before the body starts to go.

Wilder is constantly learning on the job, and to think otherwise is a mistake.

Let’s not get crazy here , Breland gave a quote in a ESPN profile of Wilder that right now he has the boxing fundamentals of an10 year old Breland

I think Wilder can / will improve as far as becoming a better technical boxer but he will never be looked at as a boxer. He’s a fighter with nuclear power and has the heart and balls and belief in himself to make it a actual fight for the entire 12 rounds with the hope his hammer can drop on his opponent. That probably won’t change and there’s nothing wrong with that

[Redgloveman]

By saying s hit like that he has several fans running around claiming he offered it when in reality he didn't definitely do it.

when you say “several fans” do you mean “most media outlets” because that’s far more accurate. Just google Wilder Hearn 60/40 if you don’t believe me (since you’re clearly the sceptical type)

Do you think Hearn is going to publically sh it all over his already damaged reputation for the sake of winning a minor point against Wilder’s team before negotiations have even started? He would probably be let go by DAZN if he was to back down on such a clearly-stated and widely publicised remark.

Use your head, man. The world doesn’t revolve around Deontay Wilder

[EnglishOxide]

Are you referring to the interview two weeks or so ago where he says that they offered 35% and “Now we’re increasing that offer. We’ll go to 60/40, no problem.” That's what was widely reported. Him essentially saying that he will or would do it. This came after Wilder Fury negotiations were said to be near the finish line.

Negotiations are not finished, that's why purse bids have been pushed back a week.

There would be absolutely nothing wrong with Fury and Wilder accepting a 40% offer at that stage.

[IronDanHamza]

I can't listen to Barry Hearn talk. One of the most annoying people ever.

No wonder Eddie is like he is.

[hugh grant]

Team.Josh trying everything to get wilder hoping I insulting his abilities will get him now.
But a stingy initial offer has really got wilder back up. Like a woman scorned

[The plunger man]

First Wilder has to fight one of their stablemates (Whyte) before he can get a Joshua fight, then team Joshua sends them a ridiculously low ball offer (even hardcore Joshua fans admit this), then they name their price(50 million) and when that price is met the backpedaling begins, then they send over a contract with no date. Wilder moves on and fights Fury and now wants a rematch to clear up the issue (Fury deserved the decision) and suddenly team Joshua is interested in a fight? After that team Joshua tried to low ball every option they have (Whyte, Miller).

So who afraid of who? And I don't get it, all of the negative stuff posted about Wilder is true. He's ultra sloppy at times and his resume is lacking. IMO, it scares the crap out of team Joshua seeing him wobbling around the ring (vs Wlad) knowing if that was Wilder in there Joshua gets KOed.

wilder has and a legit offer to fight Joshua in April ..for more money than he has ever earned , in front of 90k and for all the belts and he still won’t fight Joshua...he lost to fury the first fight and he is going to lose the rematch.
He is a dosser simple as that...
Tell your lanky streak of piss heavyweight to sign the Joshua fight and stop running

[Ake-Dawg]

when you say “several fans” do you mean “most media outlets” because that’s far more accurate. Just google Wilder Hearn 60/40 if you don’t believe me (since you’re clearly the sceptical type)

Do you think Hearn is going to publically sh it all over his already damaged reputation for the sake of winning a minor point against Wilder’s team before negotiations have even started? He would probably be let go by DAZN if he was to back down on such a clearly-stated and widely publicised remark.

Use your head, man. The world doesn’t revolve around Deontay Wilder

I did google exactly what you mentioned above. The headlines say "offered" which I believe has got you going. However, all articles written with "offered" in the title refer to the statement that I quoted for you. As far as Hearn and his reputation, I think he is very careful with his words. By saying "I will" or "they can have 40% if they want it", he is not obliged to send a contract with 40% and a reasonable rematch split (50-50 rematch split in the US if Wilder wins is a bit generous to Joshua). He will always make statements that he can easily "explain" or "blame". That's his role as a promoter (for the record, I don't "fault" him).

Where was this "I will offer 40%" statement in December?

As far as the world...it revolves around the sun. Not Wilder, not Joshua, not me, not you.

[Ake-Dawg]

Negotiations are not finished, that's why purse bids have been pushed back a week.

There would be absolutely nothing wrong with Fury and Wilder accepting a 40% offer at that stage.

Here's my take, once you agree to fight someone on the level (financial) of the Wilder/Fury fight, you stay the course unless talks break down. That's just good business. In my view, two things should have occurred in December, 1) AJ/Hearn offer 40% verbally (as was done in that interview) 2) Hearn transmit a contract with said 40% offer with the split reversed for a rematch in the US should Wilder win (he's only confirmed transmission of the 65-35/(50-50 or 70-30 in the US rematch) offer).

Here's another take, Hearn has to make the offers as the first fight, per AJ, has to be in the UK (can't expect U.S promoters to be able to put together a fight of this size without experience in the UK market). For a fight of this magnitude and importance to the history of boxing, there should be ZERO penny pinching or negotiation ploys. The first offer should be as close to the best offer you're willing to agree to. That is not the way AJ/Hearn played it in the fall of 2018. That doesn't mean they don't want the fight, it just means to me they want the fight more for the money than they do for the historical legacy. I feel the same about team Wilder. I believe there was a time when he did want the fight for legacy more than for money, But I definitely do not believe that to be the case now.

I don't like the rematch clause, but in my opinion Wilder should accept 40% offer OR state that he believes that KO'n Fury in a ppv that does great numbers gives him the leverage to ask for 50-50 (something Hearn has alluded to before).

[Scipio2009]

Joshua is a global attraction , Wilder is more or less a Barclays one so much Fury was carrying the U.S fight with no belts. Wilder has a shelf life of about 2 years ,AJ has another 8 years no minimum . So it doesn't matter who you think will dictate his career ,seems to be doing just fine .

For someone once again who complain to others that talk about money you Wilder fans sure concern yourselves with Joshuas finances when it comes to when you want to play the blame game , a game you guys continue to lose.

AJ is 29 years old, Wilder is 33, and both are heavyweights (with Wilder keeping his weight down as a principle).

How in the world does Joshua have at least 6 more years to work with than Wilder, lol.

Joshua is such a global attraction? lol, whatever.