As long as he understands he will get screwed out of decision which apparently he does...then he stands a very good chance of KO'ing Wilder. He won't be hard for Ortiz to hit.
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Originally posted by mathed View Post
Who the phuck taught you about the meaning of certainty???
For real though. Any time, any place, Deontay sends the Cuban home with a fat lip. No need for judges.
Check the fantasy betting forum two weeks before the fight and I'll be there.
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Wilder has been improving with putting his punches together to set up his wild spurts. His footwork is terrible and he has not fought above the B level.
Ortiz has to not age during this fight. He knows how to avoid a big punch that he knows is coming and has great experience. By all accounts if Ortiz can stay mobile enough, and stay busy enough, he should win this easily.
The problem for all the recent Cuban heavyweights is and has always been stamina (because they are older), and changing gears. Cuban boxing isimo the most technically based interpretation when considering amateur and professional competition as a whole. Its almost a curse because these guys have a mindset that they are prepared for all contingencies. They don't change gears when they need to sometimes.
Wilder has a habit of staying in the fight and maybe landing some shots, the judges see it and don't see Ortiz as doing enough in the rounds, Ortiz can't turn it up a notch....this is the way Wilder would win this, I doubt he KO's Ortiz. Ortiz has to outbox him and not just avoid his right hand. He has to cut the ring down and attack Wilder and make him fight going backwards which he cannot do. If he does so, he will KO Bomb squad relatively easily.
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Originally posted by jonnyc420 View PostLol Joshua cant fight Fury yet. Wilder is the best cuz he beat who? What legend does he have on his record, thats right nobody just a way too long list of bums. Lol **** outta here you dont know **** and it is so obvious. Just a lame ass fanboy pretending to know a thing about boxing.
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Originally posted by Raggamuffin View PostGood post.
The A,B,C argument doesn't fly here though. Every fight is different. He fought smart against Wlad and dumb against Ortiz. If you think that Ortiz is good, more power to you. I think that he's ok, but he's slow and can only hit what is in front of him. Wilder has every advantage imo.
Ortiz can actually box, and knows how to box, hes much better than wilder and you will see exactly what everyone has been telling you this whole time in november.
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Originally posted by Boxing lives View PostAnyone who actually fights and knows boxing knows Joshua will get caught flush by the right hand when he fights Deontay. He has to get his conditioning up and improve his defense dramatically. It can be done. Just look how much Canelo improved in 2 years with the GGG showdown looming. The bottom line is current form Joshua can't compete with Wilder RIGHT NOW and Hearn knows it. Again your the one sounding like the lame fan boy. Joshua beat ONE GUY. Thats it. Wlad was a great fighter but he was in his 40s ffs. HAHAHA at fighting Tyson Fury. Sounds about right though. AJ will likely fight that train wreck before he mans up and fights the biggest threat in the division. AJ sure is mighty bashful about stepping up to the plate and fighting Wilder. Oh well Deontay is just gonna fight the next biggest threat. Ortiz, another guy that was problematic stylistically for Joshua. You are getting to carried away with the Wlad win. He had Wlad out in the early rounds and couldn't finish the job. Wilder would have got the old man out of there. Instead Joshua punched himself out and got floored lmao. I know you brits dont have many good fighters and you have to cling to what you got but the fact of the matter is AJ is a very flawed HW and will not dominate the division the way Wlad did. He isn't on Deontay's level and he knows it in his heart. That is why he is trying to stay away and improve himself. Truth hurts, suck it wanker.
Wilder has no say so, hes a can crusher who cant even sell out alabama parking lots. If he gets past ortiz which he most likely wont. Hearn will give him a call and gift him an AJ payday so he can make some money before AJ sends him into irrelevancy
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Originally posted by Boxing lives View PostAnyone who actually fights and knows boxing knows Joshua will get caught flush by the right hand when he fights Deontay. He has to get his conditioning up and improve his defense dramatically. It can be done. Just look how much Canelo improved in 2 years with the GGG showdown looming. The bottom line is current form Joshua can't compete with Wilder RIGHT NOW and Hearn knows it. Again your the one sounding like the lame fan boy. Joshua beat ONE GUY. Thats it. Wlad was a great fighter but he was in his 40s ffs. HAHAHA at fighting Tyson Fury. Sounds about right though. AJ will likely fight that train wreck before he mans up and fights the biggest threat in the division. AJ sure is mighty bashful about stepping up to the plate and fighting Wilder. Oh well Deontay is just gonna fight the next biggest threat. Ortiz, another guy that was problematic stylistically for Joshua. You are getting to carried away with the Wlad win. He had Wlad out in the early rounds and couldn't finish the job. Wilder would have got the old man out of there. Instead Joshua punched himself out and got floored lmao. I know you brits dont have many good fighters and you have to cling to what you got but the fact of the matter is AJ is a very flawed HW and will not dominate the division the way Wlad did. He isn't on Deontay's level and he knows it in his heart. That is why he is trying to stay away and improve himself. Truth hurts, suck it wanker.
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Originally posted by Deus View PostAfter Klitschko Joshua was obligated to fight him again if Klitschko wanted it and at the same time the IBF stated that their mandatory had to come next before any other unifications.
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Originally posted by RussTBE View PostWhat an ironic post, you are over here proclaiming ortiz is "just ok". Wtf does that make wilder lmao? Wilder isnt even known for being a skilled guy, hes just big , has power, and fights bums who he can knock out. It also takes him a while to do so too, mofo had a war with duhaupas and took like 9 rounds to finally get rid of fugging molina
Ortiz can actually box, and knows how to box, hes much better than wilder and you will see exactly what everyone has been telling you this whole time in november.
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Originally posted by RussTBE View PostAJ never ducked wilder lol. Wilder actually already ducked ortiz earlier this year before he actually manned up to fight him.
Wilder has no say so, hes a can crusher who cant even sell out alabama parking lots. If he gets past ortiz which he most likely wont. Hearn will give him a call and gift him an AJ payday so he can make some money before AJ sends him into irrelevancy
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