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    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    Yes it does. It's just a round about way of doing so.
    What you said In your above post Is that he refused, that Is a lie.

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      Originally posted by boxinggod101 View Post
      How is it possible that a fighter got old over the last years lol. U got oow iq my man lol
      Another keyboard warrior talking out of his mum behind, you are still young i take it ?

      Lets see if you are the same man next year either you get sick or injured and never recover look at David Haye reason why his body is falling apart,not because of age, Manny was on steriods you all know just dont want to belive it"peeleft:

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          Originally posted by ironmt View Post
          What's the round about way?
          The round about way is there arent supposed to be any cutoffs and you dont get to decide the exact time tests are taken. Those two factors defeat the entire purpose of random testing.

          Even olympic atheletes dont get to say that they dont want to be tested too close to their competition day.

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            Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
            Both testosterone and epitestosterone are produced naturally by the body. The body in average always produces a little more testosterone than epitestosterone. A ratio of 4:1 or even 6:1 is considered the limit, according to the different standards.

            So when an athlete injects testosterone, this ratio gets distorted. They can have a 20:1 ratio or even 50:1 ratio, and therefore get busted in drug testing.

            So what do they do? they inject testosterone, but also epitestosterone, so that their ratios stay more or less the same.

            The problem is that this is hard to predict, and sometimes, just in case, they inject more epitestosterone, or the body absorbs more. And they end up having a negative ratio. More epitestosterone than testosterone, which is an anomality for a regular person. Even more for an athlete, who tends to have more testosterone than a regular person.

            Having explained that first. Now let me tell you that Floyd Mayweather had two drugs tests in which he had more epitestosterone than testosterone on his body:







            Mayweather fans, before accusing other people, look at your guy.

            Thanks for reading.
            IF there are numbers which should be concerning, it's NOT the T/E ratio. But it's LABCORP, I don't trust these fools anyway.

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              Originally posted by ironmt View Post
              What you said In your above post Is that he refused, that Is a lie.
              Stating when you will and won't be tested isn't random testing. He refused random testing.

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                Originally posted by rudy View Post
                Another keyboard warrior talking out of his mum behind, you are still young i take it ?

                Lets see if you are the same man next year either you get sick or injured and never recover look at David Haye reason why his body is falling apart,not because of age, Manny was on steriods you all know just dont want to belive it"peeleft:
                Hmmmmmm ok lol

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                  Originally posted by ironmt View Post
                  What you said In your above post Is that he refused, that Is a lie.
                  No it is not. When first asked to test he said no, that is refusing. If you want to use semantics to give Manny the benefit of the doubt, I can't stop you.

                  Respectfully, when discussing Floyd's IV you don't argue semantics. Doing it here shows incredible bias.

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                    I should have shot a burning slug into this thread 8 pages ago, but it always amuses me just how far Mayweather haters and butthurt fans of boxers Floyd has wrecked will go to make themselves feel better.

                    Here's the truth: Floyd has never been caught cheating.

                    Period.

                    If you asked me if I think Floyd has availed himself of all the methods money can buy to find an undetectable edge I'd say I don't know too many pro athletes who haven't tried that and Mayweather is likely no exception.

                    But, there is zero evidence at all that he did somethinh illegal at any time.

                    And BTW low T/E ratios are not the same as low or high testoterone.

                    But I digress. There is this:

                    “Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s inaccurate reports, [a USADA official] was in the home and observed Mr. Mayweather’s condition that precipitated the need for an IV. The [official] was also in the home when the paramedic was called and remained in the home while the paramedic provided the IV. At no point during the infusion did Mr. Mayweather attempt to hide anything regarding the treatment he was receiving.

                    “Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today.”

                    and

                    “Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s unsubstantiated claims … CIR testing was conducted on all 22 urine samples collected from both Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquiao during the testing program in advance of their fight,” according to the statement.

                    “USADA maintains, however, that focusing only on CIR testing is not up to current scientific practices. USADA also utilizes the Athlete Biological Passport to longitudinally monitor an athlete’s urine and blood profiles, which allows us to look for any minor or major fluctuations in an athlete’s blood and steroid values, including fluctuations in their [testosterone/epitestosterone] ratio.”


                    We know Hauser timed his "expose" article not weeks right after the fight with Pac WHEN ALL THE INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE but months later, right before Floyd's last fight.

                    IT WAS A DELIBERATE SMEAR JOB AND IT FAILED.

                    As other posters have noted, the degree of conspiracy need for Floyd to have cheated is mind-boggling and basically impossible. The motivation for USADA to cover-up for Floyd but NOT FOR OTHER MUCH MORE BELOVED ATHLETES is reason enough to also be sure Floyd broke no rules. THERE WAS A USADA COLLECTIONS AGENT WITH FLOYD THE WHOLE TIME BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE IV. But most important, the CIT testing AND THE ABP are built in proof against any allegations of Floyd manipulating T/E ratios.

                    He has a track record dating back to the Mosley fight, folks.

                    One that WADA and USADA could immediately examine and compare...and then indict.

                    Has Floyd been indicted by WADA or USADA?

                    No?

                    Then STFU about his allegedly cheating.

                    The science has cleared him, so go cry about something else.

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                      Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                      I should have shot a burning slug into this thread 8 pages ago, but it always amuses me just how far Mayweather haters and butthurt fans of boxers Floyd has wrecked will go to make themselves feel better.

                      Here's the truth: Floyd has never been caught cheating.

                      Period.

                      If you asked me if I think Floyd has availed himself of all the methods money can buy to find an undetectable edge I'd say I don't know too many pro athletes who haven't tried that and Mayweather is likely no exception.

                      But, there is zero evidence at all that he did somethinh illegal at any time.

                      And BTW low T/E ratios are not the same as low or high testoterone.

                      But I digress. There is this:

                      “Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s inaccurate reports, [a USADA official] was in the home and observed Mr. Mayweather’s condition that precipitated the need for an IV. The [official] was also in the home when the paramedic was called and remained in the home while the paramedic provided the IV. At no point during the infusion did Mr. Mayweather attempt to hide anything regarding the treatment he was receiving.

                      “Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today.”

                      and

                      “Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s unsubstantiated claims … CIR testing was conducted on all 22 urine samples collected from both Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquiao during the testing program in advance of their fight,” according to the statement.

                      “USADA maintains, however, that focusing only on CIR testing is not up to current scientific practices. USADA also utilizes the Athlete Biological Passport to longitudinally monitor an athlete’s urine and blood profiles, which allows us to look for any minor or major fluctuations in an athlete’s blood and steroid values, including fluctuations in their [testosterone/epitestosterone] ratio.”


                      We know Hauser timed his "expose" article not weeks right after the fight with Pac WHEN ALL THE INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE but months later, right before Floyd's last fight.

                      IT WAS A DELIBERATE SMEAR JOB AND IT FAILED.

                      As other posters have noted, the degree of conspiracy need for Floyd to have cheated is mind-boggling and basically impossible. The motivation for USADA to cover-up for Floyd but NOT FOR OTHER MUCH MORE BELOVED ATHLETES is reason enough to also be sure Floyd broke no rules. THERE WAS A USADA COLLECTIONS AGENT WITH FLOYD THE WHOLE TIME BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE IV. But most important, the CIT testing AND THE ABP are built in proof against any allegations of Floyd manipulating T/E ratios.

                      He has a track record dating back to the Mosley fight, folks.

                      One that WADA and USADA could immediately examine and compare...and then indict.

                      Has Floyd been indicted by WADA or USADA?

                      No?

                      Then STFU about his allegedly cheating.

                      The science has cleared him, so go cry about something else.
                      Excellent post.

                      I was tempted to red you for not posting this earlier but better late than never. LOL!!

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