The Mayweather "failed" drug tests.

[The Big Dunn]

He was being tested by the commission

Doesn't make Floyd clean other does it ? You never answered about the saline part

Floyd claims he didn't cut three days after the fight and needed food to make weight

So what did he use the saline for

Was it the same reason as Armstrong

All do you Floyd fans were posting th same sht

I have now destroyed you so bad you see now pretending you didn't post something or think it

This is brilliant

Your double standards about ariza,
Saline and what you judge for one person and the other is clear for all to see

yes I did answer. Dehydration. you think that is a lie. fine we disagree.

My problem is you used Floyd "walking around at fight weight" and "Ariza shakes" to support your point about masking PED's even though you claimed he was lying when he said this and floyd fans were wrong for believing him and you posted repeatedly Ariza wasn't cheating.

you can't say something is true when it helps you and false when it doesn't and not expect to get called on it.

dehydration and making weight are 2 different things and you know this. one can be overweight and dehydrated.

Just be honest and say you think floyd cheated for 3 reasons:

1. he beat Manny
2. you love Manny.
3. you hate Floyd.

Had you been honest, this discussion wouldn't have had to happen.

[lfc19titles]

yes I did answer. Dehydration. you think that is a lie. fine we disagree.

My problem is you used Floyd "walking around at fight weight" to support your point about masking PED's even though you claimed he was lying when he said this and floyd fans were wrong for believing him.

you can't say something is true when it helps you and false when it doesn't and not expect to get called on it.

dehydration and making weight are 2 different things and you know this. one can be overweight and dehydrated.

Just be honest and say you think floyd cheated for 3 reasons:

1. he beat Manny
2. you love Manny.
3. you hate Floyd.

Had you been honest , this discussion wouldn't have had to happen.

So we now have this

You and Floyd fans claim he doesn't drain himself

Floyd claiming he doesn't

Me saying I think he might be lying and does drain himself

Floyd going after the PAC fight saying he had to eat a lot to make 149

Floyd taking saline as he was dehydrated

Let's stop the rest

Do would agree with with what I just posted ?

So here is my ultimate point, just this. Floyd himself claimed he didn't drain and had to eat loads to make 149

This was three days after the fight before the iv storm came. Then he said he was dehydrayed and needed the iv

Do you see the contradiction with what Floyd said ? Especially when the stuff he took masks peds

So we have this outcome

I am right and Floyd does cut weight and needed to hydrate with iv instead of water lol at this by the way

Floyd fans are right and he doesn't cut weight
Floyd is telling the truth and he doesn't cut weight. Therefore the reasons for saline was a lie and he took it for another reason

Do you agree ?

You also said manny wasn't tested but he was by the commission ?

[The Big Dunn]

So we now have this

You and Floyd fans claim he doesn't drain himself

Floyd claiming he doesn't

Me saying I think he might be lying and does drain himself

Floyd going after the PAC fight saying he had to eat a lot to make 149

Floyd taking saline as he was dehydrated

Let's stop the rest

Do would agree with with what I just posted ?

So here is my ultimate point, just this. Floyd himself claimed he didn't drain and had to eat loads to make 149

This was three days after the fight before the iv storm came. Then he said he was dehydrayed and needed the iv

Do you see the contradiction with what Floyd said ? Especially when the stuff he took masks peds

So we have this outcome

I am right and Floyd does cut weight and needed to hydrate with iv instead of water lol at this by the way

Floyd fans are right and he doesn't cut weight
Floyd is telling the truth and he doesn't cut weight. Therefore the reasons for saline was a lie and he took it for another reason

Do you agree ?

You also said manny wasn't tested but he was by the commission ?

No I have made no claim about anything. I said I think he was dehydrated.

What does eating have to do with dehydration?

No, I don't see the contradiction because eating a lot doesn't cure dehydration.

I don't know if he cuts weight regularly. I assume he does if he is in danger of not making weight for a given fight, although he didn't sign the JMM contract until he got 146 put in when he wasn't going to make weight.

I told you why i thought he took the saline IV at least 8 times. why would I change now?

I meant advanced PED testing, not the bogus easily beaten commission testing.

[lfc19titles]

No I have made no claim about anything. I said I think he was dehydrated.

What does eating have to do with dehydration?

No, I don't see the contradiction because eating a lot doesn't cure dehydration.

I don't know if he cuts weight regularly. I assume he does if he is in danger of not making weight for a given fight, although he didn't sign the JMM contract until he got 146 put in when he wasn't going to make weight.

I told you why i thought he took the saline IV at least 8 times. why would I change now?

I meant advanced PED testing, not the bogus easily beaten commission testing.

Armstrong passed the ped testing done by usada tho so isn't that bogus ?

Floyd is lying about something whether it's his weight or saline.

All I'm saying is it's red flags

My opinion do boxing has changed big time in the last 2-3 years. I think so many boxers cheat and yes I do think Floyd is one of them because of the huge red flag

I'm still 50-50 on manny because I think he fight not happening earlier was nothing to do with drugs but all to do with arum milking manny dry

Marquez I think did cheat too

Pauline as well

Edit we will catch up tomorrow on this maybe via messaging as I have to go do food shopping and clean my car

[boxinggod101]

I don't really care abt this ****** thread tbh. Floyd could have taken ped and same can be said abt Manny.

The funny thing here is I see alot of posters who.were jumping up and down cause Malignanni said Pac was odln PED while bringning no evidence whatsoever are now going life and death with a paper and that IV thing.

I can imagine u groupies would be all over Manny of it was him same way these guys are on Floyd.

Y'all a bunch of groupies lol

Floyd and Manny 2 great fighters who never got caught doing ped so u guys shouod sh#t on guys who really got caught doing it

[The Big Dunn]

Armstrong passed the ped testing done by usada tho so isn't that bogus ?

Floyd is lying about something whether it's his weight or saline.

All I'm saying is it's red flags

My opinion do boxing has changed big time in the last 2-3 years. I think so many boxers cheat and yes I do think Floyd is one of them because of the huge red flag

I'm still 50-50 on manny because I think he fight not happening earlier was nothing to do with drugs but all to do with arum milking manny dry

Marquez I think did cheat too

Pauline as well

Edit we will catch up tomorrow on this maybe via messaging as I have to go do food shopping and clean my car

come on, please stop with triangle theories regarding testing.

so you think everyone is guilty of cheating but Manny. How convenient.

[Metho_4u]

I think you the first Floyd fanboy who admits he's been dirty during his career.

Finally seen the Roid light huh?

Dude, seriously...do you believe ANYONE at the elite level in this sport is totally clean?

[True-Boxing-Fan]

Dude, seriously...do you believe ANYONE at the elite level in this sport is totally clean?

Well I think at the elite level most are on or have been on PEDs. But if you ask the Floyd fanboy crew they are convinced he's always been clean because how can a guy who's asked for stricter drug testing be dirty himself.

In the past I've said Floyd is dirty and PAC is dirty. I not here singling out Floyd. But dude is dirty no doubt about it.

[Bjl12]

Epitestosterone is produced in parallel with testosterone, and in a normal, healthy individual every 1ng/dL of testosterone produces roughly 1ng/dL of epitestosterone. Natural variance means anything from 0.7x to 2x are pretty common.

/thread Thanks for coming out folks

[Robbie Barrett]

_Maxi why are you ducking your thread? You can't hide you just replied to me in another thread.