Comments Thread For: Weekend blowout seals the deal: Lomachenko is P4P's best man

[Bronx2245]

I would say that certain fighters get asked to do more in order to earn the title of great. While other fighters get a pass.

It's one thing when fans do it as they tend to have favorites. But when the supposedly unbiased media does it that does become infuriating.

At least with Lomachenko there's no question that he passes the eye test, though. His skills are undeniable. It's just a matter of his resume now.

That's my problem with Lomachenko surpassing Terence Crawford and Mikey Garcia! Walters "was" good, but he hadn't fought in forever before Loma beat him! Mikey already beat Salido and Martinez! So what makes Loma surpass Mikey? Russell Jr.? Terence Crawford is 30-0, with titles @ 135 and 140! How can a guy with 10 fights, WITH A LOSS, surpass 30-0 with 21 KOs? Loma does pass the eye test! He's a beautiful fighter, with a very "urban" style (that's what they call it now). Hopefully he moves to 135 before Mikey goes to 140, although I'm dying to see Garcia and Crawford, before TC moves up as well!

[Cutthroat]

I don't even have him in the top 10, his resume is solid but not as good as Garcia's.




Sosa lost to Walters, although that fight showed that Walter's power did not carry up to his new weight class. He hit Sosa with everything he had and couldn't stop him.

He gets robbed, takes a year break, then they throw him in with Loma at a class where his power didn't carry to.

Loma is damn near 30 with a lengthy amateur record, pro fights in WSB that didn't count, and an L against Salido. It's an insult to the other guys that have earned it.

[lopez36]

lol he's number one because he recently beat rocky Martinez and sosa?? and a guy who hadn't fought in over a year (walters)? ...I don't care what kind of skills you have,if you don't put those skills against good fighters then it doesn't make you great,who has sosa beaten to all of a sudden make this victory of loma over him so great?..or rocky Martinez? rocky had losses already when he faced loma,big deal,he gets all this attention because he's on hbo,there are other fighters just as good buy don't get the hype this guy gets,yes it seems he has skills,but he needs to put those skills against other fighters who are good,not the rocky Martinez,jason sosa type of fighters

[pretty ste]

Who has beaten Ward?

Is Froch a so much better win than Walters or Russel jr?

Was his win over Kova a legit P4P win since most people thought he was outclassed?

I'm not saying Lomo is P4P the best, I'm just saying Ward isn't.

Im sorry but you dont know **** about boxing froch is a legit future hall of famer also beating a unproven garry Russell and walters who was coming off a mean layoff bob arum kept him on the shelf for a year in a half than threw him in their with a two time gold medalist also sosa was arguably beaten by Walters but got a draw sosa was mediocre at best you guys always do this yall **** ride a fighter when he gets a couple of decent wins and start calling him p4p with out proving it let him earned and get his nuts out your mouth the skills are their but let him earned it ****ing casual this the **** im talking about the guy that wrote this article is from the 70 s he should know better than to be giving fighters hand out now what happen to ggg no love for ggg no more i seen hbo was throwing him down the drain the night loma fought this is what casual do once their fighters gets exposed they quick to jump on the next bandwagon remember so long ago he lost to salido a good fighter but wash up and 13 losses after mikey dominated him and beat him fair square dirty or not he beat him ward kovalev ggg and crawford are by far more proven

[LoadedWraps]

I would say that certain fighters get asked to do more in order to earn the title of great. While other fighters get a pass.

It's one thing when fans do it as they tend to have favorites. But when the supposedly unbiased media does it that does become infuriating.

At least with Lomachenko there's no question that he passes the eye test, though. His skills are undeniable. It's just a matter of his resume now.

[The Akbar One]

beating a Walters that didn't fight back, and who didn't look the same force he was at 126 in his previous fight at 130, and beating Sosa, isn't enough to put Lomachenko over Kovalev, Ward etc. If he was the same mass as Ward, Kovalev, Crawford, Rigondeaux, Gonzales, etc. I don't see him having his way. He's a top talent for sure, and in his prime. I need some top quality wins though, before I can put him over Ward, Kovalev, Golovkin, Crawford etc. Sosa, and Walters aren't the equivalent of Jacobs, Kovalev, etc. in my opinion.

[Luilun]

I made up my mind when he became the first fighter in history to win the world title on his 2nd fight. Those who have Ward well you can't surpass the person you beat on a gift . I still have Kovalev ahead of Ward when Ward beats him without any help from the judges than he has earned a spot above Kovalev

[New England]

Not so quick, P4P best ? Who has he beaten really? Big fan of the guy, his skill set will see him end up well within that range pretty soon, but IMO he hasn't put in the work to be considered P4P #1 over a guy like Ward. Resumes don't lie.

resumes and p4p lists are not the same thing. you don't weigh a 2010 win like you weigh a 2017 win on a p4p list. you also need to use your imagination a hell of a lot more if you're comparing weight classes through an abstraction whereby you handicap for size.


ward was also on the deck and most people thought the lost his last fight. if he'd won the kovalev fight by a wide margin i don't think this would be a discussion. but he didn't. ward's actually looking like he's declined a bit, and rightfully so. he had several layoffs and they amounted to him fighting less than once a year for many years. that's hugely damaging to a pro boxer. and he's not showing the kind of skill, offensive potency, and talent that lomachenko is showing currently.


frankly i don't think ward would have much of a chance if they were the same size. he'd need to hold, smother, make it dirty, the way he did against kovalev. lomachenko's just a better fighter at this point in his career. and that's why its' a p4p list and not a comparison of the resumes.

[bojangles1987]

But with what he has already done he should be ranked right there with Lomachenko. He actually beat Salido and hurt him repeatedly.

But when was that? Great win, but Garcia was out of the ring for a long time. We're still learning that he's the same fighter that whooped Salido.

[Madison Boxing]

come on lol, you cant have lomachenko ahead of golovkin in the pound for pound rankings....