Comments Thread For: Weekend blowout seals the deal: Lomachenko is P4P's best man

[BillyBoxing]

Im sorry but you dont know **** about boxing froch is a legit future hall of famer also beating a unproven garry Russell and walters who was coming off a mean layoff bob arum kept him on the shelf for a year in a half than threw him in their with a two time gold medalist also sosa was arguably beaten by Walters but got a draw sosa was mediocre at best you guys always do this yall **** ride a fighter when he gets a couple of decent wins and start calling him p4p with out proving it let him earned and get his nuts out your mouth the skills are their but let him earned it ****ing casual this the **** im talking about the guy that wrote this article is from the 70 s he should know better than to be giving fighters hand out now what happen to ggg no love for ggg no more i seen hbo was throwing him down the drain the night loma fought this is what casual do once their fighters gets exposed they quick to jump on the next bandwagon remember so long ago he lost to salido a good fighter but wash up and 13 losses after mikey dominated him and beat him fair square dirty or not he beat him ward kovalev ggg and crawford are by far more proven

Froch is a limited fighter in my book.

Despite having a great record.

He lost to Ward, Kessler and I thought he lost to Dirrell ie lost to any elite fighter he fought.


Hopkins woulda schooled Froch, Calzaghe too.

Never was impressed.

How Crawford is more proven than Loma?

Salido was only his second pro fight, yet he barely lost.
You're an idiot.

[BillyBoxing]

Ward has cleared one of the most competitive divisions in boxing and went and took over the next one. He beat the guy at number one regardless of fanboy opinion, but black fighters must crush and dominate in order for it to count as a win (see the comparison with gggs last fight).

And as far as the bolded; Yes a Froch win is 5 times better, not to mention the Dawson win. Froch was on the p4p list before, Froch beat top 2/3 fighters in the division and both were at the end of tournament meaning their stock were super high. Walters after a year off and GRJ whose main opponent had been TBA to that point aren't on the same level.

Froch is a limited fighter in my book.

Despite having a great record.

He lost to Ward, Kessler and I thought he lost to Dirrell ie lost to any elite fighter he fought.


Hopkins woulda schooled Froch, Calzaghe too.

Never was impressed.

There is nothing overly impressive in beating Froch, Taylor was leading before getting KTFO in the 12th.

Froch was a good fighter who managed to get a very good record, never was a A fighter in my book.

[BillyBoxing]

a win is a win...whether by an inch or a mile

if loma got off the canvas being behind on points and grinded it out to beat Mikey Garcia via SD...some of the same people criticizing ward would say "OMG, loma is awesome, it was the greatest comeback ive seen!!!!!"

I disagree.

Yes because Mickey is a better P4P fighter than Kova.

Kova isn't a complete fighter like Mickey, can't fight on the inside.
Yet Ward needed a hometown advantage to beat him.

[BillyBoxing]

Did you really just say a Future Hall of Fame is not even better than a Quitter and another guy who fights once a year??? WOW??? Your an idiot... Billygoat should be your name because you know JACK sht about boxing.

Ward win over Froch didn't impress me.

Lomo's win over Walters did.

Walters sparked Vic and Donnaire and was the boogeyman but all of sudden became a straight bum and a quitter.

Who made him quit?

And Ward is living off a Froch win since 2011.

WE ARE IN 2017 GUYS

[FeFist]

New England is bugging. Pound for pound is logically a combination of ability and resume. The ability is what gets scaled to higher weights and their resume is a measure of their effectiveness.

So far, Lomo is in "Wouldn't surprise me territory" as in his abilities are good enough that I can entertain certain ideas. He's not in "tried and testes territory" as in it is foolish speaking as though p4p Ward couldn't hold a glove to him.

And food for thought. Talk on Ward's inactivity when a prominent Lomo victory is over an inactive fighter? The cognitive dissonance is real.

[therealpugilist]

I disagree.

Yes because Mickey is a better P4P fighter than Kova.

Kova isn't a complete fighter like Mickey, can't fight on the inside.
Yet Ward needed a hometown advantage to beat him.

has mikey proven it with his opposition level...no

he is one of my favs...kov has done more sorry bro.

[BillyBoxing]

Ward has an entire body of work with no losses. A lot of high quality opponents and a P4P top 5 opponent in his last fight (soon to be last 2 fights). I applaud Loma for looking for good fights but to say anyone he's faced is prime Carl Froch caliber is laughable. In fact, Ward has beaten several guys better than the guy Loma lost to.

People, it's perfectly reasonable to say you like Loma better. But, don't make fools of yourselves by indulging in lies and expect people to take you seriously. I think Loma will get there. I really do.

It's perfectly reasonable to say that you love Ward.

But you have to go back to 2011 to find a legit decent win on Ward's record.

And that's Froch, not fckin Manny Pacquiao.

[Luilun]

See this is what I'm talking about??? Pretend or fake losses counted more than REAL losses! And like he said... "I already made up mind". Loma is going to be the best no matter what.

You lost your concentration I said I made up my mind when I will help here ( when he won a world title in his 2nd fight ) As for Ward like 80% of the fans thought Kovalev won what ever happen you have to take the belt from the Champ apparently Ward did not do that. Only Black Americans can receive a decision from the Judges when they have not taken the belt from the Champ , heres a few Floyd vs Castillo, Bradley vs Pacquaio, Norwood vs Marquez Ward vs Kovalev

[BlackSoul]

only 2 undefeated top tier in there prime fighters in Russell and Walters - dominated both!

russell was a highly touted PROSPECT at the time they fought, nicolas walters beat an already defeated nonito donaire who got beat by Guillermo Rigondeaux. i liked nicolas walters BUT when i examine his resume i gotta take issue with who he actually beat its a SOLID NAME but NONE of those people was lineal, unified and walters had one belt i believe
he lost to orlando salido who had like 12 LOSSES at the time he fought lomachenko how can this NONSENSE even be justified.

[GMAN SUPREME]

russell was a highly touted PROSPECT at the time they fought, nicolas walters beat an already defeated nonito donaire who got beat by Guillermo Rigondeaux. i liked nicolas walters BUT when i examine his resume i gotta take issue with who he actually beat its a SOLID NAME but NONE of those people was lineal, unified and walters had one belt i believe
he lost to orlando salido who had like 12 LOSSES at the time he fought lomachenko how can this NONSENSE even be justified.

there you idiots go again trying to downplay salido. most of those of those losses came when salido was just staring out as a teenager he turned pro at 15.