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    #71
    Originally posted by KaidouTheBeast View Post
    Buahahaha...your name shouldn't be sweet science if you don't recognize how skillfull hi tech lomachenko is..

    When did I say he wasn't technical???????????????? Point that out to me!! I said how can he be P4P over Crawford, Thurman, Ward, Spence, Rigo etc.. when he only has 14 fights and has a loss to Salido. He has zero argument for that claim. Salido already took his lunch money.

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      #72
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
      I just don't see Mickey outboxing Lomo, I just see him stopping Lomo, but Lomo footwork would be a problem for Mickey.
      What Mickey brings to me is mainly size then power and counterpunching.

      Lomo is small, he wasn't even a big 126 pounder, rehydrating to 131.

      It's hard to beat a bigger guy who is a counterpuncher, look at Pac vs Floyd, Tito vs Nard, any heavyweight (except Fury) vs Klitchko.

      Overall, I think Lomo is better skillfull fighter than Mickey but size and counterpunching could be huge problem for the ukranian, plus Mickey can crack.

      But Lomo has by far the better skillset.
      To me, Lomachenko is basically Pacquiao minus the power and with better defense. Manny did the same darting in and out. He created all the weird angles to throw punches from with how footwork. And all of that stuff is nice until a guy sticks a stiff jab in your face. And nails you with some conterpunches that make you drunk. Mikey is a master boxer. Mikey has great timing. He's a great counterpuncher. And the problem I see for Lomachenko is that Mikey can crack with both hands. So when Lomachenko is doing his spinning and darting, he's moving into something that can put him on the floor. No matter how good you are defensively. When you throw combinations, you open yourself up. I'm not suggesting that Lomachenko is a one trick pony that can't adjust. He can try and be Manny Pacquiao against DLH that threw one or two punches, then was gone before retire fire until DLH was beaten and defenseless. But even then he's playing a dangerous game with Mikey. Because Mikey veryuch understands distance and timing. Overall it would be a great chess match. Hope it happens.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Sweet_Science2 View Post
        When did I say he wasn't technical???????????????? Point that out to me!! I said how can he be P4P over Crawford, Thurman, Ward, Spence, Rigo etc.. when he only has 14 fights and has a loss to Salido. He has zero argument for that claim. Salido already took his lunch money.
        So he lost early in his pro career , for you that makes him illegible for being the best in the world ? what a twisted world you live in , this is why boxers need to "pace themselves" because idiots like you want them to win all of their fights in order to be considered the best , this really disgusts me , also you put Spence there ? it really shows your lack of ability to stay objective when you discuss P4P ....
        Loma is taking hard fights , good fights every time he goes out there instead of praising him you are talking about a salido taking his lunch money ......
        If you dont think he is the best fine , but saying its because of that Salido fight is just crazy.

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          #74
          Shots fired and returned


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            #75
            Originally posted by Sweet_Science2 View Post
            He won stop making excuses. He put a fresh L on his record. And if he was leaps and bounds above everyone Salido woudn't have been able to snatch his 0 the way he did enough said.
            I don't agree with you 100%. But I did think it was kinda funny tonight when Max was attempting to excuse the Salido loss. And stated Salido outweighed Lomachenko by at least 10lbs. That was funny to me because Max is super critical of Floyd. Yet Floyd fought a lot of guys that outweighed him 15lbs+ on fight night. And Max is critical of several of those fights. Yet none of those guys had double digit loses.

            I don't give Lomachenko as much of a pass on that as his hardcore supporters. I think it had less to do with weight and Salido's roughhouse Tactics. And more to do with Lomachenko not being seasoned enough to adjust and handle it at the time. Moving fighters early in their careers is a long, boring, and sometimes nauseating process. And often times sees prospects fighting guys that were nearly as good as the guys they fought in the amateurs. Especially the ones that competed at the international level. But that process is there for a reason And I think Lomachenko bit off too much too soon. I also believe that a more seasoned version of Lomachenko would destroy a more shopworn version of Salido now.

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              #76
              Originally posted by bluzi View Post
              So he lost early in his pro career , for you that makes him illegible for being the best in the world ? what a twisted world you live in , this is why boxers need to "pace themselves" because idiots like you want them to win all of their fights in order to be considered the best , this really disgusts me , also you put Spence there ? it really shows your lack of ability to stay objective when you discuss P4P ....
              Loma is taking hard fights , good fights every time he goes out there instead of praising him you are talking about a salido taking his lunch money ......
              If you dont think he is the best fine , but saying its because of that Salido fight is just crazy.

              Naw he lost to Salido not some crazy p4p fighter he loss to fuucking Salido you can't tap dance around that. LOMO has about 13 to 14 fuucking fights with A LOSS ALREADY. How in the fuuck can he be P4P with that resume??????

              He has about 3 solid wins on there. The rest of the victories NOBODY knows who the fuuck they are. And to top it off he has an L from Salido. Like I said he got bullied, and his lunch money took, his 0 snatched all that. Salido did that. Miss me with that p4p shyt.

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                #77
                I want to see Gervonta Davis vs. this guy.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by hitking View Post
                  I don't agree with you 100%. But I did think it was kinda funny tonight when Max was attempting to excuse the Salido loss. And stated Salido outweighed Lomachenko by at least 10lbs. That was funny to me because Max is super critical of Floyd. Yet Floyd fought a lot of guys that outweighed him 15lbs+ on fight night. And Max is critical of several of those fights. Yet none of those guys had double digit loses.

                  I don't give Lomachenko as much of a pass on that as his hardcore supporters. I think it had less to do with weight and Salido's roughhouse Tactics. And more to do with Lomachenko not being seasoned enough to adjust and handle it at the time. Moving fighters early in their careers is a long, boring, and sometimes nauseating process. And often times sees prospects fighting guys that were nearly as good as the guys they fought in the amateurs. Especially the ones that competed at the international level. But that process is there for a reason And I think Lomachenko bit off too much too soon. I also believe that a more seasoned version of Lomachenko would destroy a more shopworn version of Salido now.
                  I respect that. And exactly these dudes are crying about Lomo or lil g being outweighed by 10 pounds didn't say shyt when- Maidana, Canelo, Ortiz, Cotto, De La Hoya, Mosley all had crazy weight over Floyd on fight night. And they still called Floyd a cherry picker and coward. We know what time it is with these dudes.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Sweet_Science2 View Post
                    When did I say he wasn't technical???????????????? Point that out to me!! I said how can he be P4P over Crawford, Thurman, Ward, Spence, Rigo etc.. when he only has 14 fights and has a loss to Salido. He has zero argument for that claim. Salido already took his lunch money.
                    Skill wise dude...u always looking to discredit lomachenko by said how he can be PFP if he only has 9 fights as a pro and lose to salido in his second fight...
                    Let me ask you, have you ever saw a boxer who only has 7 fights and become a champion in 2 different weight class?ever?
                    Haters gonna hate no matter what...

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Sweet_Science2 View Post
                      When did I say he wasn't technical???????????????? Point that out to me!! I said how can he be P4P over Crawford, Thurman, Ward, Spence, Rigo etc.. when he only has 14 fights and has a loss to Salido. He has zero argument for that claim. Salido already took his lunch money.
                      And then u put spence in PFP list when he never win a single belt?u rated him on PFP based on what?...buahahha...

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