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    Originally posted by icha View Post
    As per the wbo, saunders has to fight 2 mandos before negotiating with ggg, guess who will be one of those mandos? At the end of the day the smith fight is going to give canelo his title shot vs saunders and even more leverage at the negotiations vs ggg, i have to admit i never saw this coming when the smith fight was signed...
    I just don't see it.

    I don't see how Oscar would risk putting him in against BJS, unless they paid him big money to fight at a CW.

    I think Canelo will instead fight a lower level guy in his first fight at the weight.

    The WBO have pretty much always been a joke, but Frank W has worked closely with them for years. I'm sure something could be worked out for a unification fight against GG, after only one mandatory.

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      Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
      No you have to answer the thread question first. Who else can GGG make that kind of pay day against?
      We've already covered this.

      It's still a BS offer.

      Who can Canelo fight that would make him the same money that a GG fight could?

      It's Floyd-Manny all over again.

      Nobody accepts flat fee offers from fights that generate millions of dollars in revenue.

      It's a weak argument you have.

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        Originally posted by adrikitty View Post
        Who else can Canelo fight, and do over a million PPV buys, and make more money fighting?

        See - it works both ways...

        If Canelo is gonna make 50 million fighting GGG, then GGG damn sure deserves what he brings to the table - and it's more than 10 million.

        The same with Floyd, and Pac - people said "who else can Pac fight and make 50 million? Well, the same applied to Floyd - who else could Floyd have fought and make more money"?

        In these situations,the only fair shake is a PPV split - just like Pac and Floyd did 60/40, GGG and 'Nelo should do 70/30.
        Exactly.

        Great post.

        It's not ****ing rocket science.

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          Dumb person making another dumb thread. Nothing new to see here.

          Larry if you don't have the cerebral capacity to realize the ******ity of your question then i can't even help you. I feel sympathy for you though.

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            Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
            We've already covered this.

            It's still a BS offer.

            Who can Canelo fight that would make him the same money that a GG fight could?

            It's Floyd-Manny all over again.

            Nobody accepts flat fee offers from fights that generate millions of dollars in revenue.

            It's a weak argument you have.
            A fight with BJS or Jacobs would make Canelo nearly as much as a GGG fight. There is a greater difference between GGG's purses and the Canelo fight than there is between Canelo's purses and the GGG fight.

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              Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
              Sorry, this year.

              It was completely unrealistic.

              You make it sound as though only Canelo's injury prevented it from happening.
              It was in the talks. That is literally all I am saying. If it was in the talks than it has the prospect of being made and with the money Canelo brings to the table BJS will hop right on it compared to the lousy 2 million GGG has to offer for a belt.

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                Originally posted by adrikitty View Post
                Answer this - who can Canelo fight other than GGG, and make more money?
                GGG is obviously the biggest fight but there is no fight, even GGG, that will quadruple Canelo's salary like Canelo does for GGG. Canelo can make a big pay day no matter who he fights (Khan fight) whereas GGG makes and offers **** purses.

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                  Originally posted by Raonic View Post
                  Sure. I mean I already answered it multiple times on this site but I guess remembering isn't your strong suit. To repeat what I've already said, he can't fight 1 person to make $10 million (he can probably make it against 2-3 guys). Does it change anything about what I said thoughout the thread about it being an unfair split for GGG? Of course not. Does it prove anything for you people? Not at all.

                  Now tell me where I said that I think Canelo should make a bad business deal?
                  Exactly, he has to fight 4 opponents to make the kind of money he would from 1 Canelo fight. So you agree with Jacobs in that he should get more than 3 million against GGG?

                  To answer your question I didn't say you said it I said that because you are a GGG fan boy you would hop on Canelo's head if he rejected 10 million.

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                    Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
                    Exactly, he has to fight 4 opponents to make the kind of money he would from 1 Canelo fight. So you agree with Jacobs in that he should get more than 3 million against GGG?
                    Saying GGG needs to take 3-4 fights doesn't tackle the bigger question of whether or not it's a fair split and that's what makes the argument really weak. Is $10 million a career payday for GGG? Sure. Is it a fair split for GGG relative to what his worth is to the fight? No. And that's why I think he has the right to reject the offer when he's being short changed on a business deal.

                    I don't think the fight is worth enough for Jacobs to make $3 million. But I already said in another thread if they can make enough money from the fight then sure, he can get $3 million so long as it's based on a fair split. I obviously don't think he should get $3 mil out of a $5 mil pot but $3 mil in a $8-10 mil pot is doable and fair.

                    You know why? Because it falls in line with what I said that fight splits should be based on their value to the fight, which if you haven't noticed, is what I've said all along.

                    If we're going to go with the "it's his biggest payday", then every ****ing fighter should accept a career payday even if it undermines their value to a fight. Would you support it if GGG offered Canelo $25 million (his biggest payday) and GGG gets the rest. Of course not. Because it's a ripoff of a deal for Canelo.

                    To answer your question I didn't say you said it I said that because you are a GGG fan boy you would hop on Canelo's head if he rejected 10 million.
                    Except there's still nothing to support that. Just because I disagree with Canelo during 1 stance doesn't mean I will disagree with Canelo every time. That's usually the problem with this forum that unfortunately, you disagree with 1 party and you're a "fanboy".

                    But yes, I'm a "fanboy" because I don't agree with Canelo on this topic. Well isn't that just fantastic. It's easy to accuse someone of being a fanboy without real substance.

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                      Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
                      GGG is obviously the biggest fight but there is no fight, even GGG, that will quadruple Canelo's salary like Canelo does for GGG. Canelo can make a big pay day no matter who he fights (Khan fight) whereas GGG makes and offers **** purses.
                      You'd think with that logic that people should support them trying to negotiate a fair split (with Canelo getting lion's share) instead of this silly flat fee nonsense that undermines both sides, which we won't know wouldn't work with either side. Apparently it doesn't work that way around here.

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