His only problem is he doesn't know how to end the fight. He is very calculated which is not a bad trait to have but many of the opponents he carries to 12 rounds should be KOed by him in my opinion.
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There's obvious things. His ring IQ is incredible, his defense is very good, his left hand is very good. His versatility is up there with anyone in boxing. He can fight inside and outside with ease. He's very hard to beat because there is no one thing that works against him. He can adjust and fight another way easily.
What most impresses me, though, is how seamless his style is. With most fighters there is an obvious shift before they do something. Take Terrence Crawford, for example. When he's fighting defensively and switches gears to attack, he loses something and there is an obvious shift in his strengths and weaknesses.
That shift barely exists with Ward. He is the best in the sport at alternating offense and defense or inside and outside fighting at a moment's notice. It's incredible to see sometimes. He can move from one to another from punch to punch.Comment
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His hands are only "crazy" if you haven't seen other fighters with far superior hand speed.Originally posted by KingHippo View Post
And remember, this isn't a thread about how good Ward is, we all know he is good but that he doesn't look or do anything special. Which is correct. He is however, as I stated before, very good at what he can do, even if it's not spectacular.
I have also mentioned similar fighters with limitations who over came them with relaly getting to know their craft and perfecting certain aspects of their game, Wlad, Lewis and Hopkins in our life time. They don't do anything "special" but they became great because of what they could do.Comment
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their are faster guys in other divisions but who is faster than Ward at 168-175? Its not even close....he is fast for those divisions...of course not roy jones fast but he is clearly quicker than Kovalev, Degale, Jack, Stevenson, etc.Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
for example.....Crawford isnt exactly hector camacho, but he is much quicker than anyone else at his weightComment
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Race baiting because it makes you feel threatened??Originally posted by nacho daddy View PostComment
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no but you accused another guy of it while you are doing it that is what I said. all you white hating blacks are full of s h it. only you can be proud of your raceOriginally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostComment
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I have unfortunately come across one too many of your posts over the last couple of days, and you are one of the bigger troll idiots I have seen on here for a while, so I find the need to perform an intervention.Originally posted by chris232 View Post
First off you lack knowledge and the majority of the time you lack a coherent argument.
Fighter of the year? Done more than Ward over the last 5 years? Where has he done this, in your mind? The only case he has is his quantity and Ward's lack of activity, which was unfortunate, but in terms of actual quality, he still hasn't done more. I don't hold it against GGG, it's not his fault if fighters don't want to fight him, but facts are facts nonetheless.
GGG has never won fighter of the year. The only fighter of the year award, which counts is Ring ****zine's list.
2011 – United States Andre Ward
2012 – Mexico Juan Manuel Márquez
2013 – Canada Adonis Stevenson
2014 – Russia Sergey Kovalev
2015 – United Kingdom Tyson Fury
This is the last 5 years. I don't see his name, but I did highlight one for you that you might like.
The problem with fans like you is that most of us neutral's actually like GGG, I think in time he will come to prove himself and show that he belongs at the top Echelon of the p4p rankings, he will start to fill in the perception of him with concrete results and we will get the measure of how good he actually is. In terms of whether you think Ward's resume is overrated, can you name me one fighter in top 10 p4p currently that has a better overall resume than Ward? Honestly and unbiasedly? If you consider Pac and Floyd both are retired which is how most p4p lists have than there is no one on there with a better resume for my money.
He beat a prime Froch, a guy that will most likely end up in the HOF, Kessler a 4 time SMW world champion, he dominated Abraham a two weight multiple time world champion, Bika world champion, Ok Chad Dawson was drained so I don't give him too much credit for that but he still absolutely dominated him. He has an extremely solid resume, no active fighter has that kind of pedigree. Even Barrera is a pretty solid win.
Not to mention all of these wins were one sided and extremely dominant. Sometimes even if you don't like a guy, you just have to hold your hands up and say this guy is just very good, give him his respect. Carl Froch was unconventional for an elite fighter, but make no mistake, that is exactly what he was, ELITE. Froch to me was the ultimate truth machine, if you were wanting in any area, or you had any serious weaknesses in your defences, chin, body, stamina, he would eventually find it and exploit the heck out of it, you needed to be an all round fighter just to survive with him. Lucian Bute was a perfect example of that, it was obvious within a couple of minutes that Bute didn't belong anywhere near the same ring as Froch. If you look at what Bute did before and even after you start to get an idea of what level Froch was fighting at.
Ward dominated Froch, and made him look pedestrian. He didn't run, he out hustled him, outboxed him, and outclassed him. Froch was very competitive, from the point of view that within rounds he did well, made rounds competitive, and he made Ward work, but he hardly won any. I gave him 3 and I am a proud Brit. You can't underestimate just how impressive a win that is just because it happened 4 1/2 years ago. Ward is a bad man, when I saw him in the lead up to the super six, I knew he was going to be a big problem for everyone.
He is now fighting, again the most dangerous guy out there, a top p4p fighter, and one of the guys that actually has won "Fighter of the Year", if he wins this than you are starting to talk about him in the same breath as a Hopkins, Jones or Toney, basically the best guys that fought between that 160-175 range in the modern era.Comment
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Yeah but why?? Its simple really, if YDKSAB then you'll try to hinge on something that allows you to hold a conversation. People need tangibles they can hold onto so they feel some kind of way. To be able to say that you're a ATG boxer is more than just physical attributes yet most people only feel good if they think that power and speed is in your arsenal. Too many folks lack the ability to sit down and watch a fight, gather an assessment as to how the person is winning and judge them off that merit.Originally posted by Kagami Taiga View PostComment
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And the sad thing about GGG is he is the biggest underachieving boxers with his skill set ever. Its horrible to watch.Comment
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