Some one pls explain to me...What is so special about Ward?

[extracurRICular]

Ward reminds me of a boxing John Stockton. Fundamentally great. Smart. Tough. Hard worker. mundane. task oriented not people person. A pros pro, Never great but very, very, very, VERY good. A HOF'er. 1st ballot but not a super star.

A guy who comes to work on time, does his job and leaves promptly when its time to.

Some one already took your analogy but yeah..............

[sunny31]

he beat froch by 1 round on 2 scorecards.

Hold hands up, i got the ring ****zine one mixed up, was the fans fighter of the year which is what i had in my head. Has still done a lot more than ward has done in last 5 years.

Makes me laugh, i dont think ward is some amazing unbeatable p4p king so i must be a troll. My honest opinion is that hes a very good fighter, but no way in hell as good as you lot make him out to be

OH WOW HE BEAT ****ING KING ARTHUR ABRAHAM. How amazing, after froch won every round against him lol. kessler was an old man whos best years were long gone and was he ever that great in the first place? Cant think of many notable names hes beaten.

'even barrera was a pretty good win'- yeah now you are clutching at straws

Ermm better CV's than wards in P4P top 10, over the last 5 years which it should be
judged on for P4P lists, i would argue every single one of them is better.

You can hide behind official scorecards if you want - but I think we all know what happened.

Arthur Abraham was a very good champion, just because he got beat by better guys doesn't mean he wasn't a good fighter. The fact that he was still a world champion not even 4 months ago, 5 years after Ward beat him and well removed from his prime should tell you something about his pedigree.

Kessler was an old man? He was 30 - his only defeat to Calzaghe, he was the outright fav for the super six going in, and Ward shut him out with no top level experience. Kessler won multiple world titles after that fight and split win's with Froch in two epic wars.

I am not going to go over the last 5 years p4p lists because its ever changing, but if you can name me one fighter on the current list that has a better resume than Ward, I'll be shocked. That in itself should tell you that he has a pretty damn good resume.

[Madison Boxing]

Yeah i find it hard to remember how i scored a fight i haven't watched too.

hahah my bad, obviously meant to put 'i havent watched it for a while'

[MisterPullman]

Everything. The man hasn't lost since he was 13.

[sunny31]

Ward reminds me of a boxing John Stockton. Fundamentally great. Smart. Tough. Hard worker. mundane. task oriented not people person. A pros pro, Never great but very, very, very, VERY good. A HOF'er. 1st ballot but not a super star.

A guy who comes to work on time, does his job and leaves promptly when its time to.

Don't know...I think this fight could turn him into a star, I think he's potentially special, but every fighter needs a platform to prove it on, he has that chance with this fight. I do think he lacks enough snap in his punches and that probably counts against him when comparing him to the best of the best guys in past era's.

[New England]

you should be banned for a day for lack of proper boxing kowledge


every fighter in history has lost power moving up in weight. punch resistance AND power goes down when you move up because you are fighting naturally bigger and stronger opponents

can't tell if you're deliberately dumb, or just dumb. probably a combination of both.

not as fighter go up in weight. not once was that mentioned! as fighters GET LARGER, IE as you look at weight classes, FW, LW, WW, MW, so forth, they take less punishment from guys of their own size. and for that reason it's much more of an issue when a LHW can't punch than when a FW can't.


you should be banned for a lack of reading comprehension


do you really think i'd have media credentials for several years if there was a damn thing the biggest fanboy on bscene could tell me about boxing? i mean really, do you think i'd have media credentials for several years if arguably the biggest fanboy on this website could tell me anything?

[therealpugilist]

You can hide behind official scorecards if you want - but I think we all know what happened.

Arthur Abraham was a very good champion, just because he got beat by better guys doesn't mean he wasn't a good fighter. The fact that he was still a world champion not even 4 months ago, 5 years after Ward beat him and well removed from his prime should tell you something about his pedigree.

Kessler was an old man? He was 30 - his only defeat to Calzaghe, he was the outright fav for the super six going in, and Ward shut him out with no top level experience. Kessler won multiple world titles after that fight and split win's with Froch in two epic wars.

I am not going to go over the last 5 years p4p lists because its ever changing, but if you can name me one fighter on the current list that has a better resume than Ward, I'll be shocked. That in itself should tell you that he has a pretty damn good resume.

yea its pretty pathetic.....dude is reaching

Kessler best career win came after he lost to Ward and as you said Kessler was the favorite to win the super 6....Ward was a long shot in most eyes

I agree with you about abraham....he lost to the very best....future hall of famers in Ward and Froch, no shame in that.....he held the ibf 160 title a long time and went on to win the wbo and lose, regain and defend it too....Abraham is one of the better fighters from 160-168 in the last decade.


fools will say anything on this site to support a baseless agenda


Only active fighter that have comparable or better resume's are danny garcia, Amir Khan, or timothy bradley(Pacquaio idk if he is really coming back)

[MDPopescu]

... Well: Ward badly injured his right shoulder since he was 12-13 years of age.
... Hence he fights single handed and fights from an inverted southpaw stance.

... He was blessed with great intuition, ring intelligence, cool judgement and developed good athletic skills...

... but he can't KO a duck, be it as dead as a dead duck.

[Madison Boxing]

You can hide behind official scorecards if you want - but I think we all know what happened.

Arthur Abraham was a very good champion, just because he got beat by better guys doesn't mean he wasn't a good fighter. The fact that he was still a world champion not even 4 months ago, 5 years after Ward beat him and well removed from his prime should tell you something about his pedigree.

Kessler was an old man? He was 30 - his only defeat to Calzaghe, he was the outright fav for the super six going in, and Ward shut him out with no top level experience. Kessler won multiple world titles after that fight and split win's with Froch in two epic wars.

I am not going to go over the last 5 years p4p lists because its ever changing, but if you can name me one fighter on the current list that has a better resume than Ward, I'll be shocked. That in itself should tell you that he has a pretty damn good resume.

roman gonzalez has a better cv. Alright yeah kessler was a decent enough fighter, will put that down as 2 good wins for ward. Still dont think abraham was/is any good at all and dont see that as a great win. What im trying to get at is that his wins from the past arent amazing enough to compensate for his dog**** last few years.

[joseph5620]

On this site, if you dont have power and you aren't a fighter who pushes action then there's really nothing special about you. Pretty much how it goers around here. Just goes to show most people don't know **** about boxing.

That's why fighters like Lucas Matthysse get overrated on this site and eventually exposed.