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Virgil Hunter Interview - OAKLAND, CA On Thursday, August 4, Roc Nation Sports hosted the final press conference for Two-Time World Champion and top-rated pound-for-pound fighter Andre Ward (29-0, 15 KOs) and power-punching Colombian Alexander Brand (25-1, 19 KOs) at Lake Merritt Amphitheater in Oakland, California in advance of their August 6 fight at Oracle Arena in Oakland. Ward and Brand will meet in 12-round WBO Intercontinental title fight televised live on HBO World Championship Boxing(r) beginning at 10:35 p.m. ET/PT.

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[Boxing Logic]

Thanks Virgil for being honest.

Ward fans, you finally have it here, from Andre's trainer himself. Andre Ward at 168 was "a scaled down light heavyweight." Outside the gym, "if he did nothing," he would be 200 pounds. Even in the gym, he weighs 188 some days, 186 some days, 190 some days.

GGG in the gym weighs 170. Outside the gym I'm not sure he hits 180 either. So when both are in the gym, Andre Ward is naturally 15 to 20 pounds heavier. Outside the gym, Andre Ward is naturally 20 pounds heavier at least.

Those are the facts. After Kovalev-Ward, I still hope we see GGG-Ward, but the size advantage for Ward needs to be addressed. Canelo had to fight at a catch weight against Floyd, so this fight should probably be around 165, right? Or 166, two pounds below the limit, like Floyd vs Canelo. Otherwise you have a power puncher fighting a boxer 15 - 20 pounds heavier than him, and his main advantage, power, is lessened substantially by having to punch someone 15 - 20 pounds heavier. The reason Floyd-Canelo was interesting was because the smaller guy was the faster guy, the boxer, so he didn't have to rely on hurting a bigger fighter to win. But now the puncher would be 15 - 20 pounds smaller, which kind of defeats the purpose. A catch weight would definitely be in order here to have a fair playing field.

[PhilPhilly]

Thanks for the clarification virgil

[kafkod]

Thanks Virgil for being honest.

Ward fans, you finally have it here, from Andre's trainer himself. Andre Ward at 168 was "a scaled down light heavyweight." Outside the gym, "if he did nothing," he would be 200 pounds. Even in the gym, he weighs 188 some days, 186 some days, 190 some days.

GGG in the gym weighs 170. Outside the gym I'm not sure he hits 180 either. So when both are in the gym, Andre Ward is naturally 15 to 20 pounds heavier. Outside the gym, Andre Ward is naturally 20 pounds heavier at least.

Those are the facts. After Kovalev-Ward, I still hope we see GGG-Ward, but the size advantage for Ward needs to be addressed. Canelo had to fight at a catch weight against Floyd, so this fight should probably be around 165, right? Or 166, two pounds below the limit, like Floyd vs Canelo. Otherwise you have a power puncher fighting a boxer 15 - 20 pounds heavier than him, and his main advantage, power, is lessened substantially by having to punch someone 15 - 20 pounds heavier. The reason Floyd-Canelo was interesting was because the smaller guy was the faster guy, the boxer, so he didn't have to rely on hurting a bigger fighter to win. But now the puncher would be 15 - 20 pounds smaller, which kind of defeats the purpose. A catch weight would definitely be in order here to have a fair playing field.

The size difference between Ward and Golovkin is greater than the size difference between Golovkin and Brook. Yet GGG is a coward because Brook moved up for him, and a coward because he didn't move up for Ward. Figure that out if you can.

[aboutfkntime]

Thanks Virgil for being honest.

Ward fans, you finally have it here, from Andre's trainer himself. Andre Ward at 168 was "a scaled down light heavyweight." Outside the gym, "if he did nothing," he would be 200 pounds. Even in the gym, he weighs 188 some days, 186 some days, 190 some days.

GGG in the gym weighs 170. Outside the gym I'm not sure he hits 180 either. So when both are in the gym, Andre Ward is naturally 15 to 20 pounds heavier. Outside the gym, Andre Ward is naturally 20 pounds heavier at least.

Those are the facts. After Kovalev-Ward, I still hope we see GGG-Ward, but the size advantage for Ward needs to be addressed. Canelo had to fight at a catch weight against Floyd, so this fight should probably be around 165, right? Or 166, two pounds below the limit, like Floyd vs Canelo. Otherwise you have a power puncher fighting a boxer 15 - 20 pounds heavier than him, and his main advantage, power, is lessened substantially by having to punch someone 15 - 20 pounds heavier. The reason Floyd-Canelo was interesting was because the smaller guy was the faster guy, the boxer, so he didn't have to rely on hurting a bigger fighter to win. But now the puncher would be 15 - 20 pounds smaller, which kind of defeats the purpose. A catch weight would definitely be in order here to have a fair playing field.

If..... " Andre Ward is at least 20 pounds heavier than Golovkin ".....
..... then how the hell was he supposed to make 164 ?

Maybe you should shut up about the weight ?

Also, lil'G was willing to fight everyone at 168, EXCEPT for Ward.....
..... so yea, good luck blaming the weight.

[aboutfkntime]

The size difference between Ward and Golovkin is greater than the size difference between Golovkin and Brook. Yet GGG is a coward because Brook moved up for him, and a coward because he didn't move up for Ward. Figure that out if you can.

I agree, Brook is a fkn warrior..... and lil'G is a shickken

[Slowhand]

Good comments here already. Power is not GGG´s prime weapon though, it´s pressure. I imagine it´s a tricky task to bully a clearly bigger fighter with skills to the ropes.. still, at 168 I see it as a 50/50 fight.

[aboutfkntime]

I agree, Brook is a fkn warrior..... and lil'G is a shickken

Kell Brook is a great ambassador for the sport of boxing.....

..... it was truly great of him to take Golovkin under his wing and teach him the ropes..... by giving him a huge payday, and showing him how to be a real champion.

[Ake-Dawg]

Thanks Virgil for being honest.

Ward fans, you finally have it here, from Andre's trainer himself. Andre Ward at 168 was "a scaled down light heavyweight." Outside the gym, "if he did nothing," he would be 200 pounds. Even in the gym, he weighs 188 some days, 186 some days, 190 some days.

GGG in the gym weighs 170. Outside the gym I'm not sure he hits 180 either. So when both are in the gym, Andre Ward is naturally 15 to 20 pounds heavier. Outside the gym, Andre Ward is naturally 20 pounds heavier at least.

Those are the facts. After Kovalev-Ward, I still hope we see GGG-Ward, but the size advantage for Ward needs to be addressed. Canelo had to fight at a catch weight against Floyd, so this fight should probably be around 165, right? Or 166, two pounds below the limit, like Floyd vs Canelo. Otherwise you have a power puncher fighting a boxer 15 - 20 pounds heavier than him, and his main advantage, power, is lessened substantially by having to punch someone 15 - 20 pounds heavier. The reason Floyd-Canelo was interesting was because the smaller guy was the faster guy, the boxer, so he didn't have to rely on hurting a bigger fighter to win. But now the puncher would be 15 - 20 pounds smaller, which kind of defeats the purpose. A catch weight would definitely be in order here to have a fair playing field.

He started the sentence with "at this point". Meaning that is the current situation. Thus your quote of "was" is slightly inaccurate.

There is absolutely no reason for a Ward Golovkin fight to be at anything less than 168. It's useless to expect any LHW to come down that far. Ultimately, you're exemplifying a point that many realize but refuse to acknowledge. Bigger boxers beat smaller punchers 9 times out of ten.

[aboutfkntime]

Good comments here already. Power is not GGG´s prime weapon though, it´s pressure. I imagine it´s a tricky task to bully a clearly bigger fighter with skills to the ropes.. still, at 168 I see it as a 50/50 fight.

..... did you mean, at 164 ?

Come on man, Ward would be a HUGE favorite and you know it.

Golovkin would have 2 chances, slim..... and none.

He is not even a 1-punch guy, what is he gonna do, get lucky all night ?

Golovkin already admitted that he aint ready for Ward, and he already turned him down TWICE.