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    #111
    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    It really comes down to how long it takes to get out of your system. Does Povetkin have traces because of what he did six months ago? Or does he have traces because he was trying to cover up the fact that he's still using?

    What's really being overlooked here is that it's clear Povetkin regularly uses PEDs. Them admitting to using this drug before tells us all we need to know. Lord knows what else he took--or is taking.
    Oh well apparently it used to b legal. Most too sportlers take whatever they can find to give them an edge. It is always so that the antidoping agencies is always a step behind.

    And yes there is a chance that he was recycling. Whatever. If he didn't deliver a test within the limits he is a cheater. I cannot understand that vada apparently has said that the test was positive and then team Povetkin says that he was under the limit. One of them is not telling the true story or fat Dan has got it wrong.

    I await more info.

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      #112
      Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
      It's only considered a failed test if the amount is beyond the allowable limit. Povetkin's promoter is trying to make it seem like it's no big deal. If he were truly below the allowable limit the test wouldn't be considered failed. Take fishing for instance. If the catch limit is 10 and the game warden sees you have 8 fish are they gonna give you a ticket? No. What Povetkin's promoter is trying to say is that he was under the allowable limit but he still got a ticket. He's lying.
      But he quoted the agency limit, if that is incorrect, then surely the testing agency should release a statement saying so or ban Povetkin.

      Either way, what is taking so long?

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        #113
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Oh well apparently it used to b legal. Most too sportlers take whatever they can find to give them an edge. It is always so that the antidoping agencies is always a step behind.

        And yes there is a chance that he was recycling. Whatever. If he didn't deliver a test within the limits he is a cheater. I cannot understand that vada apparently has said that the test was positive and then team Povetkin says that he was under the limit. One of them is not telling the true story or fat Dan has got it wrong.

        I await more info.
        I think we all know how this story goes. But yeah, I'm waiting as well.

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          #114
          Good god, everyone is repeating the same nonsense without reading the article.

          The allowable limit of 1 microgram was for tests taken before March 1st. There is no established limit for tests done in April.

          The promoter is saying that 0.07 micrograms follows the natural decay timeline of a drug.

          There's nothing shady going on. They're gonna wait for WADA or WBC to either confirm or deny this theory, thus establishing a new rule.

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            #115
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            I think we all know how this story goes. But yeah, I'm waiting as well.
            What do you think? That there's to much money to let the fight fall through? I hope that will not be the case. I hope that vada has the integrity to publish the correct results.

            This case makes me remember how Michael Spinks refused to fight because his opponent didn't make weight. That was a stand up guy right there. A lot of people lost money, but Spinks stood firm as he should. I cannot remember the opponent though.

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              #116
              He couldn't hurt cruiserweight marco huck but then outta nowhere after the wlad loss he started ko'ing dudes. & now it comes out that he was using this stuff. Whether it was legal or not shouldn't even be the question. HE WAS TAKING EXTRA **** TO MAKE HIMSELF BETTER = PEDs motha***as

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                #117
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                What do you think? That there's to much money to let the fight fall through? I hope that will not be the case. I hope that vada has the integrity to publish the correct results.

                This case makes me remember how Michael Spinks refused to fight because his opponent didn't make weight. That was a stand up guy right there. A lot of people lost money, but Spinks stood firm as he should. I cannot remember the opponent though.
                I wanna see the fight, man. I want it to go on but I don't even know if it's fair to Povetkin, let alone Wilder. Him winning would be tainted in the eyes of the public. Could be a black eye for the sport too. Not that it matters ultimately. But the situation just isn't cool smh.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by j0zef View Post
                  Good god, everyone is repeating the same nonsense without reading the article.

                  The allowable limit of 1 microgram was for tests taken before March 1st. There is no established limit for tests done in April.
                  What do you mean established limits for April? WADA has said to pop for this substance you need to test at over 1.0 micrograms from Mar. 1 to the present. So 1.0 micrograms is the "established limit" right now.

                  The promoter is saying that 0.07 micrograms follows the natural decay timeline of a drug.
                  0.7 is under the 1.0 "established limit" so if VADA confirms this number than everything in theory should all be good. This is why I've been saying that either VADA effed up, Ryabinsky is bsing or there is a whole other problem here.

                  There's nothing shady going on. They're gonna wait for WADA or WBC to either confirm or deny this theory, thus establishing a new rule.
                  I'm not so sure nothing shady is going on. And why I say in theory to the last part is I suspect even if this result is under the "established limit" as Ryabinksy is saying then perhaps the fact Povetkin hasn't popped for this in his previous VADA tests for this fight him popping for it now could be an indication he's microdosing or was masking his usage or just a red flag that brings forth some different issues besides the "established limit" issue.
                  Last edited by Eff Pandas; 05-14-2016, 09:03 AM.

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                    #119
                    has VADA actually released a statement yet? last i saw the only sources were "insiders", who may have known that a controlled substance was detected but not have been qualified to actually make a ruling

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                      If it was legal when he was using them who gives a ****?
                      Exactly.

                      Nothing to see here unless the VADA and the WBC says there is.

                      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                      The promoter is saying that 0.07 micrograms follows the natural decay timeline of a drug.

                      There's nothing shady going on. They're gonna wait for WADA or WBC to either confirm or deny this theory, thus establishing a new rule.
                      Yeah, but people are up in arms about it...bear in mind that there were some that felt that Wilder was using PEDs too

                      I feel that with the fight being in Russia, it raises a bunch of red flags (justifiably so)...However, the fight is still on.

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