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    #41
    Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
    The Quillin affair had more to it than met the eye from what I gathered, Haymon didn't want his undefeated belt holder promoting the opening fight of his rival promotional outfit as his PBC was about to launch.

    Fück knows man.

    I see Wilder going to Russia for the big bucks, ain't no way he's doing ppv against anyone, after the Fury v Wlad fight no one is paying to see either of them. This is Wilder's cash out fight or coming out party.
    Wilder vs Fury is the richest fight in the heavyweight division after Fury vs Klitschko 2.

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      #42
      There is no money in Russia right now, it is significantly poorer than when the Povetkin-Wlad fight took place. So I think everyone is over estimating what will get spent from the Russian because dude isn't trying to lose money again.

      Quite frankly if you have the resources you don't nee to act big, you just win like dude did with the Wlad-Povetkin fight there was no chatter with that like this. You say something like this to get a better deal, not because you mean it~
      Last edited by The Gambler1981; 02-22-2016, 01:03 PM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        What about Povetkin?

        Also, there's most likely more cheating going on in the US than in Russia, so what's the point? I know that FAR FAR more pro athletes from the US have been caught doping compared to Russia.
        Povetkin ripped and it may be natural but with all the rumors and actual facts of cheating i would question it.

        just google "Russia cheating" and youll see all you need to.

        A report came out yesterday that the chief of the dept was going to expose the cheating and then he died...all of the sudden.

        Yeah i wouldnt go but im not Wilder and the money might be to good for him.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
          The Quillin affair had more to it than met the eye from what I gathered, Haymon didn't want his undefeated belt holder promoting the opening fight of his rival promotional outfit as his PBC was about to launch.

          Fück knows man.

          I see Wilder going to Russia for the big bucks, ain't no way he's doing ppv against anyone, after the Fury v Wlad fight no one is paying to see either of them. This is Wilder's cash out fight or coming out party.
          that's not his job. he's a manager and it's his job to get his fighters the best fights for the most money. he put his own personal politics above his fighters best interests and quillin lost a lot of money and his belt which destroyed his reputation.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Fetta View Post
            Povetkin ripped and it may be natural but with all the rumors and actual facts of cheating i would question it.

            just google "Russia cheating" and youll see all you need to.

            A report came out yesterday that the chief of the dept was going to expose the cheating and then he died...all of the sudden.

            Yeah i wouldnt go but im not Wilder and the money might be to good for him.
            Does Wilder do random drug testing?? I actually don't know.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
              There is no money in Russia right now, it is significantly poorer than when the Povetkin-Wlad fight took place. So I think everyone is over estimating what will get spent from the Russian because dude isn't trying to lose money again.
              Russia may well be poorer, the rich Russian's in question are certainly not. Many of these oligarchs are financially stable (billionaires) for the rest of their lives, involved with events like the '96 Russian election where they only ended up consolidating further state machinery - to which profits have been nicely stored abroad away from the Ruble and Russia.

              The 23m bid for Wlad-Povetkin was loopy, but this is a fight Povetkin can win. A russian HW champ is big business later on.

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                #47
                Originally posted by denium View Post
                Does Wilder & his team really want to go to Russia? I doubt it.

                I think Wilder will vacate and then target the Martin/Joshua winner.
                Did Fury duck the mandatory with Glazkov and Pulev or did he not?
                Go on please formulate an excuse, Wilder hasn't ducked anyone but it appears the Fury name is nothing but all talk no delivery Hughie Fury ducked Wilder and Dyson Fluffy Fury will duck the Bronze Bomber too.

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                  #48
                  i still think ryabinsky and povetkin will agree to fight in america, i guess they just want some concessions to balance things out

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                    #49
                    But but but Haye offered him a money fight...
                    But but but but Glazkov robbed it off him...



                    The Doofy one ducked Pulev and Glazkov, thread fail.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by denium View Post
                      Does Wilder & his team really want to go to Russia? I doubt it.

                      I think Wilder will vacate and then target the Martin/Joshua winner.
                      This post confuses me... He wont wanna travel to Russia but he would be ok traveling to the UK (if Joshua was to win)? Why would he refuse to travel to one place but not the other?

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