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    I agree with GGG's people and I disagree.

    I agree in the sense that if the division limit is 160 and both guys rehydrate to just about the same weight on fight night then it should not matter if one decides to come in below the limit and the other at the limit. Asking a guy to come down to the division minimum is a lot.

    I disagree because of the A-side B-side business side of things where the fighter who's the draw has leverage at the negotiating table. Also because of GGG's team being willing to go to 154 for FMJ, they kind of screwed themselves arguing against doing the same for Canelo because now he's the biggest draw in Boxing.

    Like when FMJ and Canelo fought, you have to becareful about what you say because it just might come back to bite you on the a55

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      Man, **** Golovkin. I love his style and the knock outs he brings to the game. His Tyson like aura is great for the sport but when it comes to ward, he made himself look soft as baby ****. Using his pull to drag Ward down to 164 but will go to the full 168 for a guy like Degale?? Yeah ok, I hope Canelo and the WBC tell him to **** off and make 155 or no fight.
      Last edited by Bigg Rigg; 01-29-2016, 02:41 PM.

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        the fights for the MIDDLE weight title. the fight should be at 160 end of discussion

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          Originally posted by Lou Cipher View Post
          I completely disagree with the stance of telling a fighter they have to come in below the weight of the belt they're fighting for. There should be some rule about this with the governing bodies.
          There is.

          But Canelo can also just vacate the belt, which would hurt his reputation greatly. Canelo is a proud guy who deeply cares about his reputation...But this is nothing to get worked up about...It is a tactic. I don't think Golovkin would have any problem fighting at 158 for the amount of money and fame he will be getting to fight (and in my opinion, knock out) Canelo.

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            Originally posted by Bigg Rigg View Post
            Man, **** Golovkin. I love his style and the knock outs he brings to the game. His Tyson like aura is great for the sport big when it comes to ward, he made himself look soft as baby ****. Using his pull to drag Ward down to 164 but will go to the full 168 for a guy like Degale?? Yeah ok, I hope Canelo and the WBC tell him to **** off and make 155 or no fight.
            So you don't want to see Canelo vs Golovkin? okay...

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              Originally posted by PK3434 View Post
              So you don't want to see Canelo vs Golovkin? okay...
              Won't lose sleep over it, I'm not getting the Ward vs GGG and I've been waiting longer for that.

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                Originally posted by PK3434 View Post
                There is.

                But Canelo can also just vacate the belt, which would hurt his reputation greatly. Canelo is a proud guy who deeply cares about his reputation...But this is nothing to get worked up about...It is a tactic. I don't think Golovkin would have any problem fighting at 158 for the amount of money and fame he will be getting to fight (and in my opinion, knock out) Canelo.
                My problem with him is that he's going to England and 168 for Degale but Ward has to come down to 164 to fight him. B1tch move but then he cries when other fighters use their pull against him. The gig is up. Make 155 or kick rocks. Ofcourse it's not right but he ain't living right either so **** him.

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                  Wasn't GGG and company telling Ward they wanted him at 164 or no fight? So don't give me this GGG is above the catchweight bull crap when he was doing the same stuff. GGG needs Canelo, and not the other way around at all. Canelo is the bigger name, the lineal champ, and brings more to the PPV table than GGG is close to.

                  So GGG and company need to shut up with the we don't do catch weight crap cause they asked for one less than a year ago, start negotiating it up to about 157 or 158 and fight. I fully believe Canelo would do it.

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                    Originally posted by Bigg Rigg View Post
                    My problem with him is that he's going to England and 168 for Degale but Ward has to come down to 164 to fight him. B1tch move but then he cries when other fighters use their pull against him. The gig is up. Make 155 or kick rocks. Ofcourse it's not right but he ain't living right either so **** him.
                    That DeGale story probably comes from a UK reporter who asked Loffler if he would fight DeGale at 168, since team GGG just took a trip to England. What is he going to say? No? Its not a big deal.

                    Ward never even acted somewhat serious about fighting Golovkin until he had moved on from 168. I doubt that Ward wants anything to do with Golovkin, but of course that is just my opinion. Golovkin never cries about anything so I'm not sure where you got that from. A lot of the weight discussion are just tactics. Yes, Golovkin is a B side to Canelo, but strong B sides have a lot of leverage, regardless.

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                      Originally posted by Can'tHoldMeBack View Post
                      So loeffler says since lil g mando he won't drop down in weight and fight canelo so he might vacate then to turn around and say they will neogoiate weight purse etc once canelo stripped lol news flash dummy if you go that route then canelo will get purse he wants and weight take the 60/40 split and do 157 or end up having to make fight with a 80/20 split and prob 155-156 as weight canelo will still call shots and demands without belt sucks but that's what happens when your the established fighter who took on tough competition we still waiting on lil g to take on his first

                      Tom Loeffler is FULL-OF-**** !!

                      In this very article he attempted the same rubbish that the fanboys on boxingscene do.

                      They go full-****** when it comes to weight.

                      NO insider should mention rehydration-weight, they should be too smart and too experienced. But here, Loeffler is rolling out the same old ****.

                      In this very article Loeffler attempted to insinuate that Canelo is bigger than Golovkin by mentioning rehydration weight, which is beyond ******ed.

                      But in the very next paragraph, The lying cvnt then did a complete 360.

                      " I don't understand these SMALLER guys being considered the middleweight champion " ~ Tom Loeffler

                      These lying cvnts swing one-way when it suits them and then they immediately swing the other way as soon as it becomes beneficial.

                      It's just that Loeffler is incompetent, so he thinks he can flip-flop in the same interview and not be picked up on it.

                      Lying cvnts, attempting to manipulate everything to benefit them..... which is the exact definition of a boxing promoter.

                      And now we got the pacstains, defending Manny's catchweights, but bashing Canelo's.

                      Boxing is FULL of lying dishonest cvnts, from one end to the other end.

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