Comments Thread For: Mayweather Claims Conspiracy To Create a White Star

[PK3434]

If you buy into this, you are a moron:

1. Boxing is not really that popular. It is extremely difficult to become a crossover superstar as a boxer, no matter what color you are. Pacquaio and Mayweather both got very lucky in some respects. Boxing is mostly popular among hispanics in this country. Us white and black boxing heads that populate this message board are a very very small group in the grand scheme of things. Mayweather was able to get non-boxing fans to love him (younger, hip-hop community etc) and general sports fans to dislike him enough to buy his PPVS for several years. This is a very rare feat. This is why ESPN Deportes covers boxing but regular ESPN barely mentions it. It is easier and more convenient for a hispanic star to be made than a black or white (European or American) guy. Canelo would obviously be the lead candidate.

2. Besides the knockouts and exciting style, Golovkin gets attention because he actually has a real promoter that busts their ass for him. These PBC guys do not have a real promoter. Andre Ward has an inexperienced promoter and he suffers from his own self-inflicted wounds. Mayweather Promotions has not proven that they are a real promoter either. GGG just did a tour of Texas..He met Jerry Jones, went to the Cowboys game, had a press meet and greet in Dallas and San Antonio. Golovkin goes to Europe once a year to fight, even when HBO wasn't broadcasting it. What the hell is stopping Quillin or Thurman or Ward from doing similiar things???? The answer is that they don't have real and committed promoters or they just want to be paid well and don't want to go through the extra hassle that Golovkin has no problem dealing with.

3. Andre Ward wasn't forced to move up. He probably doesn't make the weight as easy anymore because he is now in his 30s and has spent most of the last 4 years as an inactive fighter. If there is nobody for him to fight at 168, that has nothing to do with some BS racial conspiracy. Top Rank, Golden Boy, Roc Nation and other non-Haymon affiliated promoters are all having a difficult time getting their guys fights because everyone else is unavailable because they are with your adviser, Floyd. Look at the year crawford and Lomachenko had. Look at Sadam Ali only being able to fight once this year. Right now it is hard for non-haymon guys to find acceptable opponents. This is why the word "monopoly" is being brought up and part of the reason for the lawsuits.

[TLC8]

Junior Needs To Concern Himself With Not Enabling Women In Strip Clubs

Regardless of race in strip clubs, Junior needs to quit spending God's money in strip clubs enabling their and his immoral lifestyle. His boxing days are over, we could care less on his views of the sport. He was all about the Blessed Trinity, Me, Myself, and I..

[Razcal26]

Whether you mean to or not, you insinuate it anytime you reference a white hope. And my statement stands, how is Wlad less sufficient of a white hope than Golovkin? Golovkin's media push has more to do with aura of destruction and polar opposite personality than anything else.

Did they really push Pavlik any harder than Taylor?
Miranda was being favored over Pavlik, before that fight he never received much attention, but he won that and the Taylor fight in dramatic fashion. He earned his media push up until Hopkins completely took it away.

What?

When using the term "Great White Hope", it implies on what those in control of things behind the scenes of Boxing want, NOT want the fans want. I never once implied or insinuated that white boxing fans only want a white fighter, never said that. I clearly made my point that those behind the scenes want that. Don't get it twisted or try to change my argument when it is written down in simple English for you to comprehend.

Did they push Pavlik harder than Taylor? Are you serious? They were pushing that fight early in Pavliks career simply because of him and Taylors history together in the past. They were talking about that fight for years before both fights took place. They pushed him like crazy before he won the fights and no one really cared. Even after he won the belts, they still tried to push him as this feared MW and no one cared. When B-Hop beat him, look at B-Hops reaction in the ring after the fight. It says it all really.

Look at the way Lomachenko and GGG are being pushed in comparison to Rigo and Ward. 150k PPV buys show that the boxing fans want to see the best against the best and not who HBO and others want to push as the best.

[Mr. Philadel]

Floyd opened the can

[Razcal26]

Tbh, again, I don't think that Ward gives a fuck about what people are shouting as, for his comeback fight, he took a $2million purse fight with washed up SM who came at 176 on the scales... Honestly...

You don't think that, but the fact remains, he's going up to 175 and no one gives a damn about him fighting Jack, Degale or the Dirrell brothers.

[Johnny Rubber]

Floyd opened the can

Could be Floyd's advisor's. Playing the race card keeps him in the headlines for something other that the IV.

[-Kev-]

It's true. Not everthing he said, but most of it. They don't care if the star is only white, they just are anti-black. It could be anything but black. But when it is a white person, extra effort is put in by the fans and media, networks. Like Floyd said, it's obvious, and it really is.

And about Ward being forced to move up by HBO, but not GGG to fight Ward, despite Ward vs GGG being the more financially sensible fight that's true. Floyd says he took risks and moved up and GGG hasn't, but protects Ward. His point is that extra effort is being made to knock off Ward and protect and groom GGG.

[-Kev-]

Could be Floyd's advisor's. Playing the race card keeps him in the headlines for something other that the IV.

It's clear that anyone who uses the "race card" term has no idea about any social issues and has been sheltered and babied all their lives. Raciam exists, it's not imaginary. A ****** race card is imaginary. It's a fabrication of antiblack people, used to ridicule those who speak out against racial issues.

[PK3434]

It's true. Not everthing he said, but most of it. They don't care if the star is only white, they just are anti-black. It could be anything but black. But when it is a white person, extra effort is put in by the fans and media, networks. Like Floyd said, it's obvious, and it really is.

And about Ward being forced to move up by HBO, but not GGG to fight Ward, despite Ward vs GGG being the more financially sensible fight that's true. Floyd says he took risks and moved up and GGG hasn't, but protects Ward. His point is that extra effort is being made to knock off Ward and protect and groom GGG.

Dude, Ward just signed an exclusive deal with HBO that is going to pay him well..so well, that many fans are concerned that HBO is wasting their tight budget on Ward. He signed a lucrative deal with Roc Nation. Before that he was getting a very high minimum purse with Goosen. The boxing business has been very good to Ward. Look at Golovkin's upbringing and entire career in the boxing industry: He has had it much more harder than Ward has...Ward suffers from his own mistakes.

[FelipeB]

So he's saying that ward shouldn't move up to fight but golovkin should.. But I do think he should fight degale .