Comments Thread For: Mayweather Claims Conspiracy To Create a White Star

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Plenty of people in this thread. So what are you saying? You just want GGG to move up to face Ward and then go down to 160? Why would he do that?

As I said, 160 is where the money is for GGG with Canelo or Cotto or both. Both of those fights are infinitely bigger than a Ward fight.

Yeah, maybe because Ward has no possible other contenders than GGG at 168 or below that HBO would be interested in. For obvious reasons, HBO are more interested in GGG facing the Cotto/Canelo winner.

There's no conspiracy. It's just BS. Ward didn't have to sign anything, but he did out of free will.

Again....as you keep ignoring....GGG vs. Ward was proposed for late 2016. Just like Ward-Kovalev is now.

GGG could have done whatever he wanted until then but GGG's team weren't interested. You keep presenting "either or" scenarios when all the fights could have taken place.

Exactly - Ward's only big fight at 168 was GGG and shock....HBO manuveur him up to light heavyweight and towards Kovalev.

Why wouldn't they let Ward fight bums at 168 in the meantime like Golovkin has been doing at 160 virtually his entire career?

[Razcal26]

Did Floyd just call Manny Pacquiao caucasian?

No.

He is insinuating that Boxing is looking and strongly pushing for the next white hope, but until then, they will take what they can get as long as it is not an African-American.

[AllEyesOpen]

I would say there are always ulterior motives for why a fighter is put in position to fight one opponent as opposed to the other but It's not always without merit.

Sometimes great fighters are pushed to fight great competition to see who comes out on top.

I'd love to see the Canelo/Cotto winner to fight GGG, GGG to fight Ward or Ward to fight Kovalev. All of those are great match ups.

Ward i feel put himself in the spot he's in for being inactive and not building his star power, HBO just wants a return on their investment.

If racism was that much of a factor the biggest rising p4p fighters would not be African America and Nicaraguan.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So you're saying you want GGG to make plans to fight Canelo/Cotto first, his mandatory and then Ward?

What mandatory? If he beats Cotto/Canelo then why does he need to fight a mandatory? That should be the end of his middleweight run. There's no big fights left for him there so moving up should be next.

Far-fetched. If GGG gets Cotto/Canelo and cleans out 160 by late '16. Maybe he'll throw Ward a bone.

How is it farfetched when Ward and Kovalev have managed to come to a the same agreement? That's what happens when two sides actually want a fight.

The biggest fear amongst GGG haters is that Kovalev will smash Ward so you'll never see someone beat GGG.

That's the truth.

Not really, I don't care who wins Ward-Kovalev. Neither of them are coming back down in weight to fight Golovkin so it's irrelevant.

Just glad to see two real fighters willing to get it on to decide who's the heir to the P4P throne whilst GGG continues to swat flies in the little leagues.

You'll never see anyone even challenge GGG if he keeps fighting his crappy level of opposition. And people will slurp it up.

I want to see him CHALLENGED at least. I don't care whether he wins or loses.

[MDPopescu]

... Ward's only big fight at 168 was GGG and shock....HBO manuveur him up to light heavyweight and towards Kovalev.

... So DeGale, Murray, Calum Smith or Jack, Ramirez aren't big enough fights for Ward at 168?

[therealpugilist]

What the *** are you talking about? Joe never fought at 160 and RJJ was a LHW in the early 2000s. You're also ignoring Kessler. When Joe beat Kessler he's still a big white hype, but when Ward beat Kessler, that gives him claim to #1 p4p 4 years later.

Get this sht outta here.

By the way, you should go see how far apart RJJ and Joe are in age before you call one of them 'washed up'.

Bro you sound ******...Roy and Calzaghe were in the same division or a division apart their most of their careers and he moved up to 175 when Roy was taking L's and looking vulnerable....people have talked about them fighting since the late 90s....I guess you weren't following the sport back then

I never said Calzaghe fought at 160...reading is fundamental...I sd he wanted those fights with them when they were visbly washed up


News flash...if you follow boxing, age doesn't determine a fighters prime....its the wear and tear on the body that determines how long a fighters prime lasts

[LacedUp]

Again....as you keep ignoring....GGG vs. Ward was proposed for late 2016. Just like Ward-Kovalev is now.

GGG could have done whatever he wanted until then but GGG's team weren't interested. You keep presenting "either or" scenarios when all the fights could have taken place.

Exactly - Ward's only big fight at 168 was GGG and shock....HBO manuveur him up to light heavyweight and towards Kovalev.

Why wouldn't they let Ward fight bums at 168 in the meantime like Golovkin has been doing at 160 virtually his entire career?

It has nothing do with it. First off, Ward comes to the table like "I even offered 50/50". As if he's got the pull over GGG Mr "I fight on BET". Ridiculous.

Second off, it was in the middle of GGGs prep for his first PPV bout.

I don't keep mentioning scenarios - Where? You're once again taking it to things I haven't even said. You must REALLY hate GGG.

I'll tell you one last time. GGG has fights at 160 that are BIGGER than Ward. Ward has no fights at 168 that are bigger than Kovalev. If GGG fights Ward and loses, he can kiss goodbye to huge fights against Cotto/Canelo.

There's no conspiracy other than people wanting to see Ward in good fights and HBO want to see him get ratings. GGG is pulling in 1.3/1.4 on HBO 3-4 times a year and has made it to PPV level now, despite what his numbers were.

Ward has no contenders at 168 that either isn't signed to Al Haymon or he has already beaten. So it makes sense for him to move up - Like he said he would all those years ago.

I get it. You want to see GGG get beaten. It's OK that you think Ward is the only possible guy that could give him a challenge, but he isn't.

Quillin, Lee, Jacobs, Cotto/Canelo would all be good fights for GGG to unify the division completely.

Ward's highest ranked realistic opportunity at his weight is Arthur Abraham or Callum Smith Yeah time to move on.

If GGG comes through at MW, he might throw Ward a bone. Until then..

[bigjavi973]

Am I? I thought I was giving you a perfectly reasonable reason for GGG wanting Froch.

You can take it whichever way you want to take it, but of course GGG wanted Froch at 168. He was the cashcow.

He can still come back today and sell out an arena and make Ward's entire career in one night. Why wouldn't GGG want a slice of that pie?

Lol it would be bigger and better.

Canelo/Cotto would be bigger and better, and that's why he's fighting them and not Ward.

GGG DOESN'T HAVE THE RESUME TO BE NIT PICKING!!!! on top of that he's the dude that "can't get fight cuz fighters are scared".

[Razcal26]

... So DeGale, Murray, Calum Smith or Jack, Ramirez aren't big enough fights for Ward at 168?

Apparently not or they wouldn't be screaming for him to move up.

You know damn well that if Ward were to fight those guys instead of moving up to face Kovalev then people like you would scream that his ducking Kovalev.

FACT.

[boxinggod101]

People are being obtuse. He certainly didn't overlook the fact that Pacquiao is an asian, as it is something he pointed out. Rather than point out a mistake, that isn't there, why don't you pick up a history book on the history between black and white people.

Whether people want to admit it or not, there are those that subscribe to belief in a racial hierarchy. At the top of the hierarchy would be white people and at the bottom of the list would be black people. A person who subscribes to that theory would gladly support asian fighter over a black fighter.

The proof is in the pudding. You just need to look at some of the racists pieces of **** on this site and how certain racist slurs saw a spike when Mayweather emerged victorious.

Would u say Mayweather is racist we he disrespected Manny cause hes asian? Probably not, cause for u only whites are racist i guess....