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    #81
    Originally posted by jorgepichardojr View Post
    Show me the rule that prohibits the catch weight.

    155-160 is the weight range for middleweight. They can come In anywhere in that range and be a middleweight. 160 is only the upper limit. There is nothing magical about that number. It's just a arbitrary limit set for the purpose of making fights fair and safe for fighters.

    Catch weights were invented so that fighters who are clearly in different classes, Cotto and ggg, can fight each other when demanded and be safe for both fighters. Going down to 154 may be dangerous for ggg and going all the way up to 160 May be dangerous for Cotto. The fans want the fight. Meeting in the middle at 157 seems fair for both fighters. The benefit to us fans is that we get a great fight with two superior fighters in the same ring fighting at a weight that's fair to both. Fans win. The fighters win. Let the best man that night win. It will be one to remember.

    So wtf is the deal with all the hate with the catch weight. It's been Halle I got for decade and without them is fans would have been without many great fights.
    only thing of that is that Cotto holds the 160 lbs title so ggg SHOULD be allowed to come in weighing 160 lbs if he so chooses.

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      #82
      Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
      I am not arguing any of that.

      My plain & simple argument is Froch & chavez JR at 168 but for ward, whos the lineal champ at 168, 164 lbs.
      You should have kept reading my post. Not sure why you only bolded and responded to the first paragraph when the answer is in the second paragraph. Golovkin is getting the fights now that he's been trying to get (unification fights) so there isn't any incentive to leave 160 when he has a unification today and the wbc mandatory immediately after.

      But let me ask you, do you even know when Ward wanted fight? This whole thing isn't even about fighting now, Ward's people are crying about Golovkin not signing a Ward fight for sometime next year. They were talking about 14-18 months from the point of when they wanted to sign some kind of deal lol. I don't know who in the sport does that. "Golovkin, sign to right Ward now....for a fight after you fight Lemieux and Cotto/Canelo and Ward fights a couple more tuneups".

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        #83
        Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
        only thing of that is that Cotto holds the 160 lbs title so ggg SHOULD be allowed to come in weighing 160 lbs if he so chooses.
        wow, we agree on something twice in the same month. Gotta be a sign of the coming apocalypse........lol

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          #84
          Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
          only problem with your theory is that Cotto and GGG are in the SAME weight class, middleweight.......
          Barely. Remember there is a 6 pound range in the middleweight. Cotto struggles to make it and so does ggg. The difference is that Cotto packs it on and ggg melts it off to get to their respective outer limits of the mw division. My analysis, not theory, still stands.

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            #85
            Originally posted by jorgepichardojr View Post
            Show me the rule that prohibits the catch weight.

            155-160 is the weight range for middleweight. They can come In anywhere in that range and be a middleweight. 160 is only the upper limit. There is nothing magical about that number. It's just a arbitrary limit set for the purpose of making fights fair and safe for fighters.

            Catch weights were invented so that fighters who are clearly in different classes, Cotto and ggg, can fight each other when demanded and be safe for both fighters. Going down to 154 may be dangerous for ggg and going all the way up to 160 May be dangerous for Cotto. The fans want the fight. Meeting in the middle at 157 seems fair for both fighters. The benefit to us fans is that we get a great fight with two superior fighters in the same ring fighting at a weight that's fair to both. Fans win. The fighters win. Let the best man that night win. It will be one to remember.

            So wtf is the deal with all the hate with the catch weight. It's been Halle I got for decade and without them is fans would have been without many great fights.
            That's fine if two people agree on their own terms to a catchweight. If it's fair and both sides agree, that's cool. The issue here between a hypothetical Golovkin vs Cotto fight is that Golovkin is mandatory to Cotto's middleweight belt. If Golovkin doesn't want to agree to a catchweight, he has that right and if the fight is sent to a purse bid, it will be at the regular 160 pound max, i.e no catchweight. Both sides would likely try to avoid a purse bid though and perhaps something could be worked out. Who knows.

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              #86
              Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
              wow, we agree on something twice in the same month. Gotta be a sign of the coming apocalypse........lol

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                #87


                "MIGUEL COTTO OWN BUZZ. MIGUEL COTTO NEVEL SAI DAT"

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by jorgepichardojr View Post
                  Barely. Remember there is a 6 pound range in the middleweight. Cotto struggles to make it and so does ggg. The difference is that Cotto packs it on and ggg melts it off to get to their respective outer limits of the mw division. My analysis, not theory, still stands.
                  when you strap a middleweight title around your waist and decide to defend it, you're a middleweight.

                  He had the option of doing a Roy Jones at heavyweight "1 and done" type fight for the sake of history, or whatever. Now that he is defending the title, he's a middleweight. Period.
                  Last edited by OnePunch; 10-17-2015, 04:05 PM.

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                    #89
                    worry about Canelo first...all this talk about GGG might not mean **** if he gets his ass kicked next month

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                      #90
                      Yea but he forgot to mention the 153 catchweight.

                      I can get behind a 158 CW despite Cotto being the MW champ but anything below that is plain embarrassing.

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