The 'PBC Underdog Effect'?

[BostonGuy]

The Fonfara-Chavez fight was on Showtime. I'll give you Bracero over O'Connor doe

[The Big Dunn]

That's what happens when you put on competitive fights. The HBO fan boys wanna cry about mismatches but when's the last time HBO had an upset

Hanz, my dude, did you forget Postol over Matthysse so quickly?

[bigjavi973]

Arum and his matchmakers usually make spot on assessments of their roster. I think Bob knew Chavez ****** but he did have a name you could profit off of.

exactly... he even fought for titles ffs!!! but noooooooo no complaints there cuz chavez jr was fighting on hbo

[HanzGruber]

Hanz, my dude, did you forget Postol over Matthysse so quickly?

That was recent but it doesn't happen very often. Plus they were almost even money. Just saying all this talk of mismatches, yet they have more underdog wins than anybody

[Dip_Slide]

It's very hard to predict how a fight is gonna play out in boxing, every fight is risky to some degree, however the excitment factor increases when the viewer feels that the 2 guys fighting are both top guys, can't be excited for a Garcia vs Salka kind of match.

I think PBC is doing a great job for their age (7 months) but they still have a way to go.

[-Kev-]

Is it just me or does there seem to be way more 'underdog' performances in the PBC than everywhere else.

We got two more last night with Martinez beating Alexander and well past prime underweight Montiel giving FW belt holder Lee Selby a great fight.

More off the top of my head,

Fonfara beating Chavez Jr
Alejandro Gonzalez Jr giving Frampton hell.
Chris Arreola getting a lucky draw vs Fred Kassi
Willy Nelson KOing Harrison
Ricky Burns (seemingly shot and in a division above his best) giving Figueroa a very tough night

Most of these were set up as showcase fights for the star to look good but ended up either being losses or very rough nights. Some can be put down to underestimating opponents (Fonfara is obviously not just an 'opponent') but the others were pretty clear underdogs.

Am I looking too much into this?

None of those guys you mentioned are particularly good. Excluding Frampton and Selby, I chalk their performances up to simply learning experiences.

Chavez Jr? Already had some questionable decisions in Top Rank but he was protected with corrruption due to his name. Then he had that Vera loss which was a robbery, IDK if he was with Haymon already, but Vera got robbed there.

Arreola has lost every big fight possible pre PBC.

[SnakeVen0m]

Last I heard Uncle Al is changing the name to Premier British Champions.

[Kenchiro]

Ur looking way too deep into it. You have to look at the PBC n Haymon's league as a bunch of tools for the most part. That's y those upsets happened. I don't recall any fighter in Haymon's stable that took the hard way up...not chavez jr, not quicken, not broner... Basically these fighters took the easy way up n when they r matched against styles different than the ones they haven't met before they become "exposed". The reality is they're just not that good. You tell me why a fighter still grooming their craft like broner, chavez jr, quack r only fighting 1 or 2x a yr. they should b honing their crafts like ggg at least 3x yearly.

[Tom Cruise]

None of those guys you mentioned are particularly good. Excluding Frampton and Selby, I chalk their performances up to simply learning experiences.

Chavez Jr? Already had some questionable decisions in Top Rank but he was protected with corrruption due to his name. Then he had that Vera loss which was a robbery, IDK if he was with Haymon already, but Vera got robbed there.

Arreola has lost every big fight possible pre PBC.

So its us overrating the fighters then? Because im pretty sure those guys were all decent favourites.

[Tom Cruise]

The Fonfara-Chavez fight was on Showtime. I'll give you Bracero over O'Connor doe

Good point