The 'PBC Underdog Effect'?

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I think you have guys like Aron Martinez and others who don't make the money Devon Alexander or Robert Guerrero makes so when given the chance to get on TV and make good money, I think Martinez takes more advantage of it and the man comes to impress so he can come back. Not just to get the safe win and the check.

So yes I do think Underdogs try HARDER on PBC because they not only have nothing to lose but they understand that it is more people watching them on that Platform than any other Platform most of them ever fought on.

I do think PBC spent too much airtime on the wrong fighters. I think the focus should be on the FUTURE and grooming and showcasing young talent like Spence Jr, Prichard Colon, Erikson Lubin, Sammy Vazquez Jr instead of wasting airtime on guys just using the air time to fight weak opponents. The guys who don't want to step up and fight the best, their pay needs to be cut drastically! Not good when guys can get $1 Million to come and fight anybody. But Live Underdogs make for Good Entertaining Fights!

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I think boxing fans think L's are more damaging then they actually are. Canelo is going to be doing some damage in the PPV arena & the actual arena via ticket sales for a long time regardless if he loses to Cotto &/or GGG. Pacquiao took a few L's (one bs L) including one L where he got put to sleep. He still was selling tickets & PPV's & was later involved in the biggest fight in boxing history. A better example would probably be Chavez Jr. That guy is f#cking up all the time & under performing yet people still come out to watch him fight.

Canelo is a little more impervious to losses as people are more willing to give him chances. De la Hoya's lucky IMO. He has a guy like Canelo, who can get big fights, sell, and lose and continue to sell and be in big fights. Haymon doesn't have one of these yet.
lol That Chavez jr thing is kinda related to that Canelo thing where they are supported and pushed in Mexico for vapid and superfluous reasons. Its hard to believe Juan Francisco Estrada can't get the support that Chavez jr gets, but thats casuals for you I guess.

LOL. Nah man I mean I feel like he'll fight for one of the 6 or w/e "world" titles out there. I mean **** man Joey Gamache won a title, in fact two iirc so I don't think its that much more of a step to suggest Najera could win one, but I feel much more confident he'll have a title fight, where he very well could look like dog****, in his future.

lol Maybe he can fight for the interim interim WBA title like they just gave at middleweight. He can probably win that one.

I think people aren't very in touch with Haymon's roster or how many 20 fight & under 3yr or less caliber pros with potential he gots. I think PBC has more Olympians than any other stable out there. I definitely think Haymon understands the value of having the best guys of the amateur talent pool on his roster.

Just looking at his boxrec page he's got: Tarver, Berto (Haiti), Taylor (assuming he's still gonna fight, which I hope isn't the case), Gary Russell, Audley Harrison (UK, is he still fighting?), Angulo (Mexico), Mares (Mexico), Spence, Wilder, Herring, Mike Hunter Jr, Khan (UK), Beibut Shumenov (Kazakstan), Martirosyan, Bika (Cameroon), John & Julius Jackson (****** Islands, Julian Jackson's sons), Leonard Bundu (Italy), Rau'Shee Warren, Marcus Browne, Beterbiev (Ukraine), McJoe Arroyo (PR), Derevyanchenko (Ukraine), Khytrov (Ukraine), Oscar Escandon (Columbia), Carlos Velasquez (PR), Eleider Alvarez (Columbia), Oscar Rivas (Columbia), DeGale (UK), Breazeale, Terrell Gausha Jonathan Gonzalez (PR) & Nyambayaryn Togstsogt (Mongolia).

I only really see these as being/could be high level operators.
Maybe those other ones will pull something out and look the part but as of now, I don't have much faith in them and I've seen most of those guys fight multiple times.

Ahhhh damn. Yea forgot about him.



Hell there are guys who aren't sold on GGG yet & if he lost this weekend I'm sure there is gonna be a minority segment of vocal fans who'll outright call him a fraud. I can see some "GGG = Generic Geriatric Garbageman" or some such childish **** type threads popping up late Saturday night already. So I can't blame you for not being sold on these guys. But you shouldn't be sold on very many guys at this point anyway. I'm still comfortable saying all 4 will be champions & among the top 3 guys in their divisions at some point & I'm not big on shotcalling future title holders, but only time will tell us about what those guys are ultimately capable of.

Yeah, I'm not high on too many right now, but there is talent, they just need to prove it.
There are people you can see have something, but people should be a little apprehensive. Just try to keep expectations in check.
When the guy makes it you can scream "I told you so!"
Let's avoid "Adrien Broner fighter of the decade" type threads.